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First or second focal plane reticule

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Andy, Jun 14, 2008.

  1. Andy

    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    What you using and have you tried both, just wondered what your opinions were. :)
     
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    :wtf:Now you've totally lost me Andy, please explain :confused:
     
  3. Andy

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    Wondered how long it would take, :D

    A first focal plane reticule is installed at the start of the objective end and will appear to get bigger when you turn the zoom up.
    A second focal plane reticule is installed in the ocular (eyepiece) end and stays the same size no matter what zoom you use.
    Bet no one even looks in to this when buying a new scope. :D
     
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    Not long at all really Andy, :D
    andyh andyhawkx, getting confused now :confused:, can I change my username ?

    Not a clue about scopes, all I do is look into it and put the crosshairs on what I want to hit and pull the trigger so please explain in plain english, aprt from that I assume your talking about how the telephoto lens system works. :confused:
     
  5. Andy

    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    I just did explain above, try looking through a vari mag scope and turn the zoom while looking at the crosshair. :)
     
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    Ihave owned both types the prob with the scope set in the first focal plane is the P.O.Ican move when you zoom up or down . second focal plane doesnt suffer from this prob. however i had a simmons diamond mag where the reticle would expand as you zoomed up and it didnt loss its P.O.I it was a great scope
     
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    I didn't have a scope with adjustable front thingy (can't remember what you called it) but I assume your talking about something like a Hawke Varmint 3-10x44 scope with adjustable meterage on the front lense. Am I on the right track ?:confused:
     
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    topcats the boy and he did"nt use google!
     
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    Thats adjustable parralax m8
     
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    i usually use fixed mag scopes for most of my shooting
     
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    So that's not what Andy's on about then ? Name a scope like Andy is on about so I can look at pictures, this is going right over my head :D
     
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    Thats odd TC as the ffp should not move poi as the reticule is installed after the zoom mech. ;)
     
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    May be simmons overcame this problem but i had a early tasco 6x24x40 what would loss its poi .say if you used 4x to zero then zoomed up to 20x the poi would move mind you this was about 20 year ago
     
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    I have lost the plot here boys, I just bought a Hawke Varmint 3-10x44 (For £40) but no instruction manual, I haven't fitted it to a rifle yet as I don't quite understand what the front adjustable lens is all about. From what I found out on the internet I think that I turn the front lens to the range I want to shoot at and that adjusts the cross hairs or POI accordingly. Is that right ? Apologies if this is a bit off topic but I want to understand how this works. BTW scope is in excellent condition.
     
  15. Andy

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    If it's got Adjustable objective on the bell end then thats for focusing.
     
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    mine is a firs focal plane.

    i keep mine on 6X mag anyway so it doesn't affect me
     
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    Hi Topcat, bit of a resurrection here but fingers crossed. I’ve been hunting around for some info as I’ve just picked up A 3.8-12x44 Simmons diamond mag. Have you any info on using the reticle in the diamond mag, or a user manual? I’m generally OK with reticle but can’t find much on this one. Cheers hopefully :up: QUOTE=topcat;96091]Ihave owned both types the prob with the scope set in the first focal plane is the P.O.Ican move when you zoom up or down . second focal plane doesnt suffer from this prob. however i had a simmons diamond mag where the reticle would expand as you zoomed up and it didnt loss its P.O.I it was a great scope[/QUOTE]
     
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    One of the main advantages of first focal plane rets is that the point of impact does not alter as you alter magnification. Second focal it can alter.
     
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    This is the biggest understatement EVER!!!! :laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:
    9 years :eek:
     
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    I reckon SFP for stalking (within PBR using a hunting ret) and FFP for long range (far beyond PBR using a calibrated MIL/MOA ret and dialling).

    What do the HFT guys like, as thats a bit of both?
     

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