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few questions about new gun and zeroing

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by mark, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. mark

    mark Well-Known Member

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    few questions am bored of my springers as you fire and then have to wait another 10-30mins for the lil b*****s to find courage to come back if at all so ive spotted a nice bsa ultra in local gun shop so:
    Q1 does a bsa ultra work well with 3-9x50 scope ?
    Q2 what pellets do they seem to like best i use aa hunters in my springers
    Q3 are bushnell laser sighters any use or just a gimmick
    Q4 their is a lot of arguments to what you should fill a ultra to i heard everything from 170-240 and bsa recommends 235 but also heard you get stranges at this pressure can any one shed light on this


    last but not least should i keep my springers (bsa supersport and a bsa lighting xl tac)

    cheers mark
     
  2. i8allthepies

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    Welcome to the forum.:up: I looked long and hard at the Ultra, I think for the price it's hard to beat and handles fantastically well. If you can come up with a few extra greenbacks, why not think about the multishot? - makes life easier, especially if you need a quick follow-up shot.:up: The cocking mechanism is not to everyone's taste - some prefer a bolt - but I think it works well, unlike the silencer which is cr*p!:( As for your queries -
    Q1 A 3-9x50 will make for a nice hunting rig on an Ultra, but might look a bit 'top-heavy', you could also look at some of the compact scopes, the current JSR's are good value.
    Q2 As always, try as many as you can.
    Q3 Bushnell lasers are excellent, I'm thinking on one for myself, great for varmint bashing in low light:D
    Q4 As a starting point, try 185. If you have (or can beg or borrow) a chrono, shoot until the fps is dropping off, then try charging to 190. It's tedious, but you'll soon esablish a 'sweet spot', ie. a zone where the power curve is fairly flat - and your shots therefore consistent. This will likely be about 35shots in a .22, 30 in a .177
    Lastly, give those nasty BSA springers to me, I'll dispose of them for you;) - seriously, keep them - they're quality guns and you should carry on enjoying them as a change from the Ultra.
    Happy hunting:D:D:D
     
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  3. mark

    mark Well-Known Member

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    wen i say the laser i was on about one that nhelps to zero in not a laser aim if you get me
     
  4. i8allthepies

    i8allthepies Posting Addict

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    Sorry, my mistake.:eek: You mean the one that goes into the barrel.:up:
    I don't know, I've always found zeroing dead easy:)
     
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    Q1 does a bsa ultra work well with 3-9x50 scope ?

    should do


    Q2 what pellets do they seem to like best i use aa hunters in my springers

    try them and see


    Q3 are bushnell laser sighters any use or just a gimmick

    stop being lazy and di it the old fasion way:D:up: i dont think you will save a great deal of time. may help on the windage.


    Q4 their is a lot of arguments to what you should fill a ultra to i heard everything from 170-240 and bsa recommends 235 but also heard you get stranges at this pressure can any one shed light on this

    no idea about that
     
  6. Buzz

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    Laser bore sights are all but useless on air rifles. Even with .177 the tragectory is still too curved to make them any use. Light travels in a staight lines...pellets don't. I used one instead of a pattern plate to check the shot pattern centre on my 12 bore shotgun, but gave up on the rifle.
    The way I've zero'd for years works well and is as cheap as chips.
    Take a piece of cardboard, stand it against a backstop and shoot at it....aim somewhere in the middle. Now aim at the first shot hole and see where it hits. Adjust the scope and do the same again...repeat until the second pellet goes down the first pellet hole.
     
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    the old card board trick:p

    even the new generation use it, it works:up:

    did they have cardboard in the old days then buzz:eek::D:p:up:
     
  8. andyhawkx3

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    Like wise:up::D
     
  9. i8allthepies

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    With a felt pen, I draw a 2" plus sign (+) on a piece of card, set the windage first (and hopefully never again), then the elevation. Usually done in 6 shots.:up:
     
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    How do you know which is the original hole after a few shots. :confused:
     
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    its the one that isnt getting any bigger lol:D:up:
     
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    After taking the first shot, I put a ring round it with a felt pen, it doesn't have tobe central/perfect as you are aiming at the first pellet hole, not the ring you have just drawn:up::D
     
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    cheers guys just need to find sum were with 30 yards with lacking permissions at mo thanks to a ex mate gonna be hard i herd 5 yards is the same as 25 yards is this true
     
  14. i8allthepies

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    More generally, with a .22, 10 yards is like 30 (with a 14-15 grain pellet)
     
  15. mark

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    cheers again i shud be able to get 10 yards easy thanks for all advise roll on the 21st ( first day after pay day am off) den its 30 mins after ill be in yard scope zeroing
     
  16. i8allthepies

    i8allthepies Posting Addict

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    What exactly will you buy?
     
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    Original shot doesn't matter after the second, I always go for the hole of the previous shot. If it gets crowded I move out to a clean bit of card. I don't mark anything at all, but it's worked well for me since about 1963 and have always zero'd at about 10 yds.
     
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    You should throw the towel in Buzz If you have been zeroing your gun since 1963.
    I can zero a gun in a few minutes. :p
     
  19. andyhawkx3

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    Nice one Andy:tea::lol:
     
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    Yes Andy, very good. That good I'm not even going to fight it.:D
     

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