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Advice Falcon Prairie Bm

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by littleJon365, Jun 20, 2018.

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  1. littleJon365

    littleJon365 Democracy unless they disagree

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    Hi all,

    I’ve been looking at a Falcon Prairie BM in .177
    Looks in mint condition and has just had a service.

    My questions are:
    Is the Prairie BM any good?

    Who made the barrels for them, LW?

    Are spared easy enough to get hold of?

    What does the BM stand for? I’m assuming Bull barrel for the B? M? Multi shot?

    Any other advice would be much appreciated or if you’ve had/have one are they worth it.

    I think I’ve read somewhere that these were the last Falcons (BM’s / CM’s)and had a fair few improvements made to them with the mags.

    Many thanks
    Jon
     
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    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    I'd personally much rather have an Air Arms; as apparently would most other punters judging by how poorly they sold. Being manufactured by Air Arms I'd expect the barrels to be LW, but I can't confirm 100%.

    Replacement seals shouldn't be an issue (with the possible exception of inlet and exhaust valves) but I'd guess that given the guns' age and relatively short production time, "hard" spares are like to be very limited (and obviously increasingly so).

    Not sure about mag improvements on later guns, but I'd definitely recommend giving it a good shakedown with both mags before parting with cash as I've known them to be very tempremental in the past. Check the associated components for wear and damage too, and also get it over the chrono at around 150bar as they're well known for coming out of the factory well OTT.

    Not going to ask how much but I'd not recommend paying north of £300 for one gun only for all the above reasons.. good luck ;)
     
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    littleJon365 Democracy unless they disagree

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    Thanks for your valid input as always
    I remember them having a good rep for being very accurate and for un regged rifle the power curve was pretty good?
    I hear what your saying about AA. Beautiful rifles and pretty bloody good. I’ve just got shot of a S400 and US510 in a bit of a clear out so I’ll soon know if I’ll come to regret that :confused:

    £325, one mag, Hawke 2-7x32 ao ir, cheapish Bag, two tins pellets, fill probe, mod. Looks new.
     
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    I've always liked Falcon rifles, the finish on them was very nice & accuracy wasn't a problem, wish I'd kept mine.
    NSP which owns AA bought them out which may have put potential buyers off the later models as they might have had similar concerns to you, what's likely to go? O-rings are easy to get, if you're worried about more complex spares then an email to AA asking if they still stock spares might ease your mind, you'd be very unlucky for anything other than a spring or o-ring to go.
     
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    No worries.. I know it's not quite as straightforward as this, but I'd personally not let go of either an S400 nor S510 in exchange for a Falcon.. I hope you've got some decent gear left after getting rid of those two!

    That aside the price isn't eye-watering (assuming it all works and is legal) considering that the scope's got to be worth £50 and the mod maybe another £25-30 if it's a decent one :)
     
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    I had a soft spot for them as a youngster but couldn’t afford anything back then. I’m in need of a .177 and it’s looks mint as well.
    Your right about O-rings probably being the only issues and it’s just had a service and changed a fair few so should be decent. I haven’t found someone that has slated them that I know.
     
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    To be honest I haven’t taken the 400 out in some time and its just sat there for a few years. I just didn’t see the point in keeping it. The US510 was very good and extremely accurate but the weight is a little on the heavy side. I think the Ultimate Sporter looks great as well but weighs as much as me. I didn’t sell them to buy the Falcon, I was just on the look out for a .177 and found what looks like a decent one so hopefully something cheapish that is decent.
    I’ll Chrono it before I take it Friday/sat as well, thanks for the heads up. I normally Chrono at home after purchase but that would be a little too late :rolleyes:
     
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    Good work and good luck ;)
     
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    I have one.A very accurate rifle for the 20 odd shots you get running at 11ftlbs as mine is.I can increase shot count to just over 30 if i bring it down to 9.5ftlbs.
    Sorry,doesn't seem to matter what i do with my pics...they usually always upload upside down.
     

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    Mines a true left hander, one of only twenty ever made.I remember being disappointed with the shot count myself after buying it.
    Not sure what the shot count was advertised at by falcon at the time of production but i get 3.5 mags (28 shots) before pellets start to drop off target at 30 yds, thats from a 200 bar fill down to 120ish.Of course being unregulated and having such small air capacity i would hazzard a guess that longer shots will drop off target a lot earlier.
     
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    28 shots :confused:...

    Maybe my ‘Raider 2’ ain’t so bad after all, I think the OP may come to regret this...
     
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    I think it was something like 50/60 shots.
    I’m not sure a reg would help if it’s consistent already? I doubt it would add many more shots. To be fair it’s not to far off some other rifles before they die off. I regged my Ultra for more shots
     
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    I’ll have to make every shot count :D
     
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    I hope you’ve got a bottle and not a pump... :D
     
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    Hopefully for the OP’s sake this is more like it !...
     
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    I just watched a video of someone putting 48 shots, 6 mags on paper so seems a little better than first thought :cool:
     
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    That's interesting - does seem very low, but then it does have a pretty small cylinder on it. That said even my TDR (which has a tiny cylinder) gives me 40 good shots in .22. Don't suppose you know what the air capacity is...?
     
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    Tried to find the exact cc's the cylinder has but to no avail.From the outside of the rifle it looks deceptive to its true internal capacity for air but to hazzard a guess i'd say 100cc if that.
    I have tried multiple different ways to gain more shots and other than setting the mainspring to its weakest setting putting out 9.5ftlbs at its maximum i have come to the conclusion that it's a no go.A shame really as its the lightest most comfortable and easiest to shoulder rifle i have.If i could get 50/60 good shots out of it it would get used but as it is it just gathers dust in the back of my cabinet.
     
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    Found this saying 65 shots at full power?

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