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Fake Zeiss' on ebay

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Darren Petts, May 18, 2015.

  1. Darren Petts

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    The Chinese made the fake Leupolds some time ago and they were actually fairly decent budget scopes. The latest effort looks as much like the real thing as I look like Brad Pitt.
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    Well spotted Darren, we need reminding now and again to keep us on our toes, cheers.
     
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    It is so easy to become a victim of eBay and the Chinese fakes if you aren't careful. Usually the key giveaway is if the overstate the authenticity of the product. Don't get me wrong, I have fallen foul of them from time to time. It's easily done.
     
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    Hey, I got a Bushnell from eBay for £18 delivered from China, and the bloke swore it was legit!! ;)
     
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    Claiming the Zeiss is assembled in the USA when you are flogging them from China does seem somewhat like shooting your own foot!
    I still have a fake Leupold in the cupboard. It cost £32 or so and is as good as anything sub £100.
     
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    The Chinese are getting very good at counterfeiting stuff these days, often they are still good quality and more than fit for purpose, so long as you realise what you are buying and haven't been bent over and of course don't try and pass it off as the real thing in the future - enjoy!

    It don't make it right and it's for the holder of the copyright to enforce their rights but China generally don't give a hoot.

    Beware of De-Walt cordless drills that are currently doing the rounds, you can't tell a right 'un from a wrong 'un until you take it to a repairer who has to install parts.
     
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    Problem is that China is such a difficult place to enforce copyright. There is a website dedicated to Chinese fakes and some are just outrageous. But as you say it's often difficult to tell until you rip it to bits.
     
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    I've had a couple of the fake Leupold scopes - as you say, they are at least as good as anything in the sub £100 bracket.

    As long as you know what you are buying into and don't sell on as a real Leupold, fair enough.

    If it looks too good to be true that usually means it is...
     
  9. Darren Petts

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    Thing is this Zeiss is £160. The fake Leupolds are sub £40. At £160 it's only £50 off a US purchased pukka item. Hardly a bargain and without seeing one I'll bet my last quid it's not as good.
     
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    There was a problem with the retro gaming market where some fake/reproduction cartridges where coming into the market. I doubt many would have been fussed if it wasn't for the fact these carts were almost as expensive as the original at auction. They are damned good.
     

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