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Eu To Ban All Lead Projectiles

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by JayP, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. Chouchin66

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    Here in California, there is , as of June 2019 a prohibition on the use of lead projectiles for any hunting, statewide. This prohibition is ( supposedly to aid in the recovery of the California Condor)... B.S. , hunting with air rifles , and target shooting are not banned while using lead... Go figure! This is simply an attempt by anti gun people to screw with us hunters/ sportsmen.

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    As usual it's a case of who shouts loudest combined with politicos trying to curry favour with the electorate, just like happened with the hunting ban. How do you stop lunatics and unelected beaurocrats?
     
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    Birth control...

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    What caused the decline in the Californian condor?
     
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    If you can achieve that for us then please carry on! :D
     
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    Slightly more politically correct than my idea...
     
  7. Chouchin66

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    Don't know, 100%, They're like the Dodo, a relic of times past,... Culled by sheepmen ... They screwed w/ newborn lambs...but I think mainly , the use of DDT, causing thin & non- viable egg shells... Same as w/ birds of prey. Ultimately a ploy by anti gunners to further their agenda...
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    Was trying to remain as P.
    C. As possible...I like this forum! & too new to get banned for suggesting my real ideas...

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    Where I live, you can't swing a cat by the tail W/out hitting a Turkey Vulture. These birds clean up more hunter's gut piles than any Condor, perhaps ingesting lead in the process, yet there seems to be no effect on them populationwise...


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  10. r10hunter

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    Lead alternatives for shotguns are very good nowadays the tungsten alloys are far better patterning and more effective at longer ranges than lead was.
    But as the pellets are harder than steel and heavier than lead a modern gun and choke is needed and cartridges are more expensive than lead or steel.

    And steel shot is widely used for pigeon decoying and wildfowling it’s cheap and effective and the game dealer gives you a better price. But lacks the range of lead or tungsten alloy.

    There is no excuse to contaminate waterways if your gun is not up to using modern lead free ammo don’t shoot over waterways buy another shotgun or use bismuth or steel shot and keep the range shorter.
     
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    I'm convinced but read post 65 from a long term shotgunner.
     
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    Undoubtedly some people flout the law. Studies find a high proportion of wildfowl sold to game dealers have been shot with lead shot.
    How many of those were shot over water ??? How many over land where people may disregard the law as it’s stupid ???

    My point is there is no excuse to drop lead shot into water as with the correct gun and choke tungsten alloy, ITM, heavishot is far superior to lead shot.
     
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