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Electric Vehicle Trip Hazards

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by tinmanofkent, Jan 8, 2020.

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    The only electric vehicle I have ever seen and liked , still don't think I would part with mine for it though.
    Bollinger.
     
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    Just as bad when the weather is hot too...most of the ones with 250 mile ranges need air-conditioners belting out cool air over the electronics and motors to stop them frying themsleves - in the winter they can divert that hot air into the cabin.
    So the actual range isn't much worse on anything that delivers any kind of performance.
     
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    Couldn’t an electric battery powered car spin an electric generator/ alternator that would recharge the batteries as they are being used?
     
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    Perpetual energy - that is the solution but i'm not sure they are quite there yet ;)
     
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    How on earth would the Government Tax such a vehicle?? They'd never allow it!
     
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    I saw a video of an Indian guy who’d rigged up a car battery to an alternator that was driven by a 12v electric motor and belt... rough as hell on a plank of wood...

    Used battery to start the thing running and it’d just keep on running...

    provided lots of lighting and power for his laptop, phones and other 12v stuff...
     
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    Don’t believe everything you see lev.

    Don’t believe the rubbish you read about electric vehicles from people who don’t own one, never been in one and most likely never even seen one.

    Bb
     
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    Teslas do it to a certain amount when town driving with braking and acceleration involved. Not at all on motorway runs but their charging systems, range the computer programming of the cars is superb compared to any other make.

    I'll change to an electric vehicle when the government decided to convert all the army tanks and air force fighters to that system. by that time, reliability and range problems will have been sorted
     
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    People buy electric cars not knowing the environmental damage that making the batteries causes.

    They forget that electricity comes mainly from burning fuels that produce co2 and particulates (just try finding out about wood pellets and where they come from), in the case of wood fired power stations much more than that of coal.

    Electric vehicles are more polluting as a whole per mile than petrol. They simply do not pollute at point of use....
     
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    They do, that's how many hybrids operate. Brake pads and discs last longer too if driven properly but a different driving style is required.
     
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    Hybrids use a petrol/Diesel engine as well as battery power don’t they?
     
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    Yes, the BMW i3 had a version with a range extender engine...

    The Vauxhall Ampera was basically ahead of it's time, like the Rover 25 Streetwise...
     
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    prove it!

    Bb
     
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    Look at the environmental damage caused making the batteries, then that making the magnets for the motors.

    The co2 expenditure alone is many thousands of tonnes per car.

    Then there is the co2 involved making the electricity as well. Fossil fuels have been partially replaced by wood pellets. These are invariably made in the USA from virgin forest, not from offcuts, processed at plants powered by fossil fuels, shipped by trucks and trains, to fossil fuel powered bulk ships, shipped to the UK and then moved by trucks and trains to the plant, which then burns these pellets producing more co2 and particulates than coal.

    The lithium for the batteries is horrendous in terms off carbon dioxide. The break even point (where the co2 used in production is cancelled out by the alleged lack of co2 at point of use) is about 5 times the expected maximum life of the battery. Bit of a problem that.
     
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    And??

    One undersea volcano has a fart and it pumps more carbon into the atmosphere than the entire amount produced by the human race since we discovered how to make fire
     
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    But I love the 'Save the world!' hypocrisy spouted by those with, selling or making electric vehicles. It is not saving the world.

    You want to save the world? Buy a small, second-hand, petrol engined car, only hop to a city with a park and ride scheme that is served by a tram and park there. It is much less environmentally damaging than buying a new, wholly electric car.
     
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