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Dropped my rifle :(

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by oldskool, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. oldskool

    oldskool Member

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    Scope is apparently un damaged but now shooting about 2 foot to the right , moved the cross hairs with the adjuster but it's only moving the hit about 4 inches .

    This is is at 20 m

    shooting air arms s410 carbine

    scope is Nikko Stirling 4-12x 42A0

    how the hell do I reset it again ? I can't turn the dialer any further ??

    ps I know I'm an idiot :eek:

    Thanks in advance .
     
  2. Quentyn

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    looks like you have moved the barrel

    undo the barrel band at the front ( the 2 grub screws next to the filler cap) and see if with it completely loose the zero returns to something like normal. If it does re do up the screws and you are finished if not go see a gunsmith
     
  3. Mart61

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    Sounds like the scope may have moved on the mounts. I've also heard of reticles moving inside the scope but I'm not sure if that is possible or likely with your scope.

    Best bet is to take the scope and mounts off, check the scope rail or guides and, once happy they are all ok, put it all back together again and re-zero the lot.

    I'm sure that a search on here for scope zeroing will find a few useful threads if you're not familiar with the process.
     
  4. larryking28

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    Personally I would get a metal straight edge first and see if the barrel has moved at all.
    You could be making things worse by trying to adjust the barrel when in fact it is the scope that is no good.
     
  5. imspartacus

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    the barrel is 'held' at the muzzle end on an a410 isnt it? i'de be looking at scope /mounting & re-zero if it was me tbh
     
  6. oldskool

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    Thanks chaps need to have a sit down with the Allen keys etc then . Really annoyed at my self lent it against the wall as I opened the door and it slid down the wall in slow motion .
     
  7. imspartacus

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    I would demount the scope and recentre the adjustment turrets and refit the mounts and then the scope to the mounts and start to re-zero again - if you run out of alignment again then it may be something is amiss internally within the scope :(
     
  8. cloverleaf

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    What hit the ground first?

    In the event that the muzzle took a substantial whack, if you're lucky it will just have moved the barrel band round a bit - slacken the two grub screws that secure the band and see if it springs back (then re-tighten).

    If you're unlucky it will have bent the barrel (S400s are prone to this as the barrel's so skinny at the end :rolleyes:) Hold a straight edge along the mod / barrel trim so that it extends backwards along the barrel. Check the gap between the barrel and edge is constant; if no then the barrel is bent and it will need straightening / replacing :eek:
     
  9. oldskool

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    Yeah I'm gonna try that at the weekend when I get some time , really hope it's not the internals , that will be bad .
     
  10. oldskool

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    Not 100% but suspect scope + mount landed first , it did land on a thick carpet mat hence no scratches.
     
  11. Quentyn

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    I have to say I suspect its the barrel, i would get the barrel band loosened ASAP
     
  12. Hodg

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    Have you got another scope or can you borrow one just to try it on your rifle, that will tell you if its scope or barrel.
    Atb
     
  13. Jackroadkill

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    Me too - I did a similar thing with my S410 a few years back and shat myself when the zero went to cock. After much fiddling and re-zeroing I reset the scope to where it had been before I dropped the rifle, undid the grub screws and the barrel re-aligned itself. As stated above you can check the alignment of the barrel with a good straight edge first.
     
  14. oldskool

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    no don't have one . I will have a play around and report back !
     
  15. Springrrr

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    Loosen the scope in its mounts and turn it. Look to see if it rises and falls and that will tell you if the scope tube itself is bent.

    I dropped my AR-15 off a bench and it landed on the scope. The shots were not even on the backstop so I did what I told you to do above and found the scope tube was bent. This is a high priced Bushnell so it became an instant paper weight until I made a decision.

    I took a dial gauge and turned the scope to find the exact high point. Then locked it down in the mounts, put a towel over it and whacked it with a rubber mallet. I figured all the harm was already done so what more could I do.

    The bend decreased considerably so I did it again and again until I got the scope withing .002 of being perfect. At that point, my bravery ran out and I stopped.

    The next trip to the range was a success and I only had to go 2 or 3 clicks to be back to point of aim at 100 yards.

    If your scope is bent, give it a try, what can you loose?
     
  16. richardscar

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    first just try loosening all the screws on the scope mounts, do them back up again and see if its sorted ? , failing that , try what the guys above said :)
    It happened to me and doing the above sorted the problem ? hth, rich
     
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    The barrel band moving is a semi common occurance with the s400 series and can happen if you tighten the filler cap to tight on occations, it is generally sorted by loosening the band and letting it reset itself. There are after market barrel bands available with three grub screws that hold them a little more firmly, but a reset of the barrel would be my first port of call. good luck.
     
  18. Chinnymonster81

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    My son did the same to his S400. It was missing by 3 or 4 feet. There was just enough adjustment in the scope. Still not sure if he moved the barrel or bent it or the scope. Its been completely stripped since then and there is little change when it went back together. But it hits what he aims at usually so I'm not overly worried.
     
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    You got off lightly I dropped mine last week and the stock snapped right through the pistol grip :eek:
     
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    :0 , **** major bummer ! I think I would cry . lol
     

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