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Double Loading Hw100?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by pjgtech, May 18, 2019.

  1. pjgtech

    pjgtech Never let an Idiot drag you down to their level

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    I always thought that Weihrauch HW100 had some sort of system to stop double loading pellets? not really quite sure what this system is?

    However, at the range today, one of the regular old boys brought his in and after a bit, he seemed to be having problems, turned out he had double loaded it and the 2nd pellet had got wedged and the mag was stuck! (Could not take the mag out).

    So, after much fiddling, fettling, pulling, pushing, wiggling and prodding, the mag was eventually extracted, slowly slicing / flattening the stuck pellet in two, thus releasing the mag.

    When we then checked the barrel two pellets fell out, one forced inside the skirt of the other, then another pellet fell out, and lastly there was the pellet half stuck in the breach and half stuck in the mag (which we slowly halved whilst forcing the mag out), so, all in all, the old boy had managed to not double load, not a triple load, but a quadrupal load!!!! :facepalm:

    But, as above I thought this was impossible, so how come it is in fact possible? So, does anyone know how the anti double load system is meant to work, and how it failed on this occasion?
     
  2. Rattymcrattyface

    Rattymcrattyface STRAP IN

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    Did he flick the mag lock and spin the mag one hole over?
     
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    mikeyhall1 Amazing Poster

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    The only way you can double load a 100 is failing to push the mag retaining switch back buddy
     
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  4. pjgtech

    pjgtech Never let an Idiot drag you down to their level

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    Right, that must be what he did then, hes a sweet old fella, he has loads, and I do mean LOADS of guns, brings about four different ones in every week! We usually have to zero them for him.....But he swore blind that he did not force in any pellets, but that barrel was were more bunged up than a tight a*se with constipation! At least we sorted it out for him..... :D
     
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    ....er not quite. My brother had a HW100 prior to the quick fill model, and by not fully screwing the cylinder in the pressure available gradually dropped until there wasn't enough to push the pellet out of the barrel......I think he'd got about 10 stuck.
     
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    If you have a pellet up the tube and think your out and load another mag you will put another up the tube.
    It can be double loaded, it's just not the gun doing it ;)
     
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    Sutty Engaging Member

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    I'm new to this and only had my hw100kt a few months, but as far as I can see this doesn't cause a double load either. If the mag retaining switch isn't engaged then when you try to load the mag fails to rotate and you "load" the fresh air where the last pellet was in the mag.
    If you try to load a 2nd Pellet (with the mag retainer in place) then the mag doesn't rotate if you haven't fired.
    If you load then decock, then load again I think you could do it - and you could repeat as many times as you like.
     
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    Sutty Engaging Member

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    Just checked this and I was right, load-decock-load-decock etc will put multiple pellets in the barrel (obviously I did this with the mag empty!!).
    Not engaging the mag retainer simply fails to rotate the mag - no double load.
     
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    edtwozeronine Donator

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    Mine went back to hull cartridge for a leak and they found the side lever was faulty too, just as well really. I've never managed to double load though!
     
  10. pjgtech

    pjgtech Never let an Idiot drag you down to their level

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    He didn't seem to know how he did it? as I said above, he brings loads of guns in, and we often have to zero them for him, as he seems incapable of doing it himself, I don't mind as I get to try loads of other rifles... :thumb:
    Does make me wonder though, he's obviously been shooting for years, he has loads of guns, but he seems clueless about how most of them work, and he does not really understand scopes and can't zero his own guns, still.... gets him out the house for a few hours... :facepalm:
     
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    Bless him:D
     
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    Kadushu Engaging Member

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    Maybe he was manually rotating the mag if he'd forgotten how to engage the lock. He doesn't sound very with it.
     
  13. StellaArtois Sr

    StellaArtois Sr Springer Whore

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    All the more reasons for sticking with Springers :mao:
    I didn't tell anyone I bought a full length HW100 recently did I :confused:
    Ade :thumb:
     
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    John Entwistle Busy Member

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    Sadly I’m my first few weeks of owning one I did this :(
     
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    So basically, you CAN double load one, but you have to change your routine considerably and go well out of your way to do it?

    I have owned a few 100's over the many years I have been shooting, but not once double loaded after 1000's of shots.

    Good guns the 100's.
     
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    Kadushu Engaging Member

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    You can double load a springer too if you're determined to do things wrong!
     
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  17. John Entwistle

    John Entwistle Busy Member

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    I did learn only done it the once :)
     
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    Second this!
     
  19. Cornish Kev

    Cornish Kev Well-Known Member

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    I have seen the HW100 double loaded and could not under how this was happening having used them since thier release.

    What we found is that the owner was not fully seating the air tube because he did not want to mark the gun when filling. When the air tube was fully seated the fill probe was very close. Local dealer swapped air tube and problem solved by the filling probe hole being in a slightly different place.
     

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