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Do you think this would help the recession

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by SA1Gunner, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. SA1Gunner

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    Do you think that the recession in the UK could be helped if our very brave troops both men and women were pulled out of all over seas conflicts, I have given this some thought and I would not like to estimate how much these bloody wars are costing us a nation, I think we should start putting our own house in order before we carry on over seas. What are your thoughts.
     
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    yea i think brittain is messed up enough at the moment.
    shouldnt be going around cleaning up after other countries:rolleyes:
     
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    Its all about black gold (oil)....If we pull em out, it wont help....this country does not export anything, I.e. products, so we are not bringing in any cash:(
     
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    Cheers Gunner, great name by the way lol. Andy lets hope someone can come up with an answer, politicians have so much to answer for.
     
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    Between Blair and Brown:)handjob:) this country is on its knees, all they care about is london and the stock market,sod everything else!.
    I agree,our troops should come home now,but the savings made in doing so would probably be sent to some african country as donations!!:mad:.
     
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    Hell Censored, I live near London and all we get on local tv is london london and more london, it really gets up my nose :mad:
    Sumo, you hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned, that's all the government care about, **** everyone else, they don't give a toss cos they are all making huge sums of money and don't care about the average man.
    I heard a story from a guy who's 14 year old kid sprayed graffiti over another gangs patch in West London. This kid is now in fear of his life no bs, the gang who he upset are ******* Somalians, the Police are in fear off this gang and can't control certain areas where this gang are.
    Another reason why we are in recession, looking after every other f**ker that comes here not wanting to give there input to the country just come here to cause trouble, so why the **** are we putting up with them.
    Then there's a copper who gets murdered and his killer has just been released and given a new identitiy and relocated etc at the taxpayers expense :wtf:
    Why not deport the f**ker and his ******* family, that's how it should be when you come here. You break the law and you and your family get back on the banana boat back home, not the opposite where this Censored hole country rewards crime. **** them all, those who want to cause trouble, ******* shoot them or birch them and send them back. That may just be the start if this country making a recovery and putting the Great back into Britain, (dream on).
    Our troops need to pulled out of these foreign countries and let the people there get on with it, trouble is it's all about who controls the oil, if the UN were consistent we'd have thousands of troops in African countries trying to keep peace, there's been wars going on there for years and the UN etc. do sweet F A about it. Why don't they do sod all, cos there's no oil there thats why.
    It is time to put our own house in order but where is the man to do it, certainly there's not one politician in Parliament man or woman enough to stand up and say it how it is cos all these people care about is there own career and own job. It's time for andyh to become Emperor of Britain :up: and eventually I'd get the Great back into Britain but I can't see that happening as I don't have control of the armed forces and I'd probably be labelled a rascisct, (am I a racist :confused: ) like I care what others think of me that's how I feel about our country and how it's gone to the dogs.
    End of my rant :D
     
  7. a1gunner

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    i say bring back national service for one thing, i know id willingly go through it. make boys men and teach the chavs some disaplin:rolleyes:
    (how to spell would also be handy:eek:)

    yea i deffo agree with the angry guy about people coming here for handouts and taking the goverment for a sucker.
    get rid of those that didnt come from here originally (if they missbehaved)

    also i think if you live in brittain you should be brittish.
    i got nothing wrong with people practising their own religeon and all that but they start becoming terrorists or cheer on the talibans whilst on britting soil:rolleyes:

    look i dont mind someone that says they are britting when really they arent but they should act like a brit and suport brittain in its culture and so on not make brittain whatever part of the world they belong to.
    i mean if your country's so great why move:rolleyes:

    remind me why we have a goverment again? things would probably go better without it, and lets face it,its not gonna get much worse:rolleyes:
     
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    Pulling out of the middle east would be a start, but then we have this crappy government to contend with too. I know it's not their fault, it's the US, but that's just the point - this country needs to stop sleeping with George Bush and trade elsewhere. The US is unstable, so we should make business with places like Japan or wherever else ... I don't have a clue about economics as you can probably tell but the point is I have ideas.
     
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    Thanks for your valid thoughts lads, no disrespect meant to any of us common folk, me included but if we can see it, why can't the politicians.

    I really hope Britain has a future and . Bless all of our and all allied personel who fight so brave but if it's all about the oil, it stinks.
     
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    What's going on there will never be resolved, because the people aren't educated, I don't think it's all about the oil but that certainly plays a part for the US, if not us. Remember that we're there only because America is, it's not in our interests, because we have oil in the North Sea - all we need to do it build somewhere to store it so we don't have to sell it to Europe at a fraction of its worth.
     
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    National Service won't improve your spelling though, best you keep up with your education a1 :D
     
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    its the goverment that has uss in this state,and they get well paid for it.
     
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    I know this is a little off topic, but has anyone tried to calculate the following.

    OK, so you work your 35/40 hour week and get paid at the end of it. Whoops, where's it all gone...income tax and national insurance that's where, before you even get your hands on it...stolen away by the government.

    Right, what you've got left is disposable income, lets see what happens to that. Well the main thing is that everything you buy, with a few very small exceptions gets taxed at 17.5%, so that's another 17.5% of your previously taxed income gone. If you have a vehicle, you're paying more than half of your fuel bill back to the government too, in fuel duty, then there's the road tax and you're even taxed on the compulsory insurance you have to have for your car or bike, house and life insurance too, again out of your previously taxed income. Now you buy a house..thank you we'll have 1% of that too in stamp duty say the government. A bit left over to save for that rainy day (or new gun)...we'll give you some interest on that sir say's the bank. Right, unearned income say the government, we'll tax you on the interest. After all this you're now at you witts end, worked your gutts out all your life, it's all been too much, heart attack and die. Ho ho says the government, we'll have a portion of that too..death duties.

    I challenge you all to work out over a year how much tax you pay in total on your hard earned cash, but if you do I'll expect the suicide rates to rise sharply over the next few days.

    Anybody under the age of 18 need not bother themselves unduly yet..it'll come to you in the future...if we have a future.

    PS...forgot to mention things like TV licence, driving licence, fishing licence, shotgun licence, fire arms licence, passport fees......etc
     
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    It just blows my mind politicians can't see it, there again the money they are on, they haven't got to worry about either paying that bill or buying some food.
     
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    You got my vote Andy mate!:up::up:
     
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    especially on the housing side buzz.
    i know i will have a hell of a time finding my feet and getting a house of my own:rolleyes:
     
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    35/40 hour week Buzz??, is this part time work mate??.
    Christ pal I put in about 90 hrs a week for **** all!!.
    Obviously my animals have to be looked after and harvest/silage operations to be handled as well,which makes a 40 hour week a luxury!.
    And since the drop in value for £/euro, my income is even less,but input costs go through the roof!!!:mad:
    Come 2012, a privately owned farm will become a rarity,mark my words!:mad:
    You think food prices have risen,just wait in 4 years time prices will explode, and dont think that the farmer is swimming in new found capital, the ones that put up the price of food is the supermarkets,for every £1 they charge extra filters back to the farmer as 1p!!, I **** you not!!.
    I think its time ALL food producers in this country went on strike for even just one week,to remind the fat twatt Brown that he aint the boss!:mad::mad:
     

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