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Diy nv hepl pleeeeease

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by Dels510, Mar 18, 2014.

  1. Dels510

    Dels510 Active Member

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    Good morning wise men of NV
    I will appologise first because this question has been done to death i'm sure but i have been reading the previous threads and the more i read the more confused on the parts to order i get ie screen,camera,battery etc
    So can you help please.My budget for the parts is £200ish,can go higher if quality will improve.
    I am hoping to use a bullet style camera as i have a nice adaptor design in my head to screw into the lense cap threads on the scope.
    Finally am i right in thinking that one of the members on this site builds/sells ir torches,if so could someone point me to him.
    Thanks in advance
    Del
     
  2. terry1001

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    There is a huge amount of choice in components but the electronics are simple plug together items and can normally be upgraded later if you need to although it's best to get parts which will do everything you want. If you can post details of what you want from the nv unit it will be easier to suggest suitable options.
    You will then have a choice of buying from UK suppliers or the Far East (which will probably be cheaper but take 3-4 weeks to arrive). Items such as batteries may not get through international customs and are best sourced from the UK.
    Some scopes do have threaded eyepieces which will take photographic filter adapters and can be a good way of fixing your camera but don't rule out using various tubes or a proper day scope adapter or even an engineered system built onto a weaver rail or similar. It's worth thinking about how you are going to mount your illuminator when you're considering how to fix your camera.
    There's been quite a few threads covering fitting everything together and it's worth looking at them to get ideas, you can get a lot of useful parts from the plumbing section at B&Q and possibly the electrical section as well.
    I do modify torches for night vision use and so does 'some bloke', if you're interested send me a pm and I can let you have some details.
     
  3. SteveO

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    Bear in mind obtaining Li-ION batteries from abroad now is virtually impossible due to the aircraft restrictions on carrying them and buying them within the UK is becoming increasingly difficult!

    Only last week I had a parcel with some batteries being sent to another member seemingly diverted to Belfast for destruction, RM will neither confirm or deny this of course so I am left wondering. :rolleyes:
     
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    According to royal mail, Lion batteries can be sent "In equipment" plus two spares!

    I didn't realise until now that the Royal mail discovered the secret of magically making one battery safer to transport than another...... but plainly they have! Some transformation in the very molecular make-up of them must happen when you plug them in "equipment"

    As for air transport.... they want to stop putting highly volatile fuel in their aircraft! It's dangerous stuff!

    All this legislation smells of "Knee jerk" I suffered the same thing with my composite materials shipping from Germany a few years back after the lorry caught fire in the Chunnel! It's calmed down a bit now though.
     
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    Thanks for the replies :up:
    A few more details as requested terry,it will be used on a 12 ftlb rifle shooting rabbits and rats.I expect to be shooting at no more than 40yds.
    Uk suppliers would be best as i want to get building.
     
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    I would use a E700 camera £70 its a box one so sorry it is available as a bullet camera £95 but is more money fits in a Plumbing fitting and can be adapted to fit some screw thread Scopes if you can get teh adaptor from a camera shop (mine a sidewinder is threaded butt its a non std size so i sue a Pulsar DSA £30 )

    a T20 850nm IR from one of the UK builders £45-£60 ish runs on 18650 battery so you need a couple and charger (most builders will sell these to if needed)

    then a screen cant say as i dont use one but a few avalible here and not to much.

    Battery blue ones are avalible in UK I also use Li po 11.1v units from RC race cars and Airsoft tho you need to be careful as no protection circuitry
    or you could use 3x 18650 which are 3.7v and get 11.1v

    a few connectors and power cables etc and a mount for the Screen
     
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    How does 11.1v run a 12v system, interested as looking for batteries myself.
     
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    One of the good UK suppliers is Sure24 and they have developed a section of their website dealing with nv equipment and parts http://www.sure24.co.uk/nv-forum-2. They sell the E700 (board camera) and also the ej230 bullet camera which is electronically the same but in a different body, these are about £70 and £95 respectively. They also have some of the other parts you will/may need. These cameras are very well regarded in the nv community and are probably as good as you can get without spending silly money.
    There's plenty of choice in monitors, I've recently been using these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290804759940?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
    For batteries I advise a uk supplier, I can't offer any specific suggestions but search on ebay for 12 volt rechargeable battery from UK only and you should find a selection. Alternatively you could build your own using separate cells.
    You will need a 2 way power splitter and probably a bnc to phono adapter to connect the camera to the monitor.
    If you can use a soldering iron you can sort out and neaten the wiring quite simply.
    Sure24 can supply the E700 with a 16mm lns fitted and no ir filter if you ask them, I'm not certain about the ej230 but it would be worth asking them, they are very helpful.
     
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    As above the E700 or EJ230 are the best for performance Vs cost and is what I'm putting in my add on build
     
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    Hi , most cctv cams that we use have a volts of 12 but will accept +- 10% so at 12, - 10% = 10.8v this can vary up or down,a bit so all is well and dont forget the recharged batts go to 4.1 ish volts so 3x will give 12.3v as a start point
     
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    A huge thanks guys,i now have the info i needed.*tips hat to all*
    Will be ordering some parts by the end of the week :up:
     
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    Thanks bud, gonna give the 3x18650's a go
     
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    OR- If have not ordered your bits yet,- and a bullet camera is not essential,- and you don't want the wait and hassle; Then i have my DIY setup for sale at the moment.
    Steve.
     
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    Hi Steve
    Thanks mate but some parts are ordered (screen and ir) and on monday the E700 with various leads etc will be ordered.
    Quite looking forward to building it tbh :up:
     
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    There is a nite-tek E700 housing on Sure24 about £55 fits into a challenger DSA add on which Uttings have for £25ish I think!
    Not cheap I know but thought I'd suggest that combo.
    Good luck with your build, the E700 is "The Dogs Dangley's" ;)
     
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    Sure24 now sell the DSA but i think the Nite tek adaptors are waiting for step up collars

    BUT a £1 plumbing fitting does the job perfectly as a housing to fit the DSA as a second Fitting a joiner to shut out outside light
    http://www.nightvisionforumuk.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5077

    put the £53 saved into a Nite tek T20 IR unit

    I used a bit to tape to get it to fit the DSA as the step collar needed was the one to fit my scope

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    Good morning
    Just a huge thanks to those in this thread that so generously gave the advise i needed.
    I now have night vision and last night it took its first wabbits.I have to say it is a much much better image and range of veiw than i expected,it was so clear that whilst setting up i was able to use above 20x mag and see individual blades of grass crystal clear.
    My set up is as follows for any one interested in building one

    E700 camera,nite tek housing for camera,(both from sure24) a 5" high def screen from the bay and a 40mm compresion waste pipe fitting .The ir is from a t20 torch.
    All in it has come to around £180 but it is all from the uk and i paid for super fast delivery so if you were prepared to wait it could easily be done for less than £150.I'm using a 3 cell 11.1v lipo battery to power it bcause i had a couple already.Just got to tidy the wiring now i know it works.
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    Nice set up fella, Enjoy! :up: Your camera choice was spot on!

    I find my 600TVL £32 camera absolutely spot on for my needs but would like to invest in an ej230 one day soon!
     

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