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Did I Pay Well Over The Odds For A Poor Scope?

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by Gazawee, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. Gazawee

    Gazawee Well-Known Member

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    I'm a newbie that had a few questions and an issue with my very first rifle that I bought online a few days ago.

    Decided to go in to a local shop to guidance and to have the rifle and pump looked at.

    The chap was reasonably helpful but gave a vibe that he wouldn't have been that impressed if I didn't buy anything. So I asked what would be the best upgrade to make and he suggested a scope. I took one look through it and it seemed brighter and clearer than the one already on my rifle (but what do I know)..and then said yes ill buy it (totally out of guilt).

    When I left I wanted to satisfy myself that I hadn't paid well over the odds but I cant sem to find anyone online selling it. It only says RIFLESCOPE on the box so I assume its some cheap chinese unbranded jobby. Having looked around at reviews I'm starting to feel pretty rubbish about the purchase as I see lots of reviews and recommendations for scopes and they are always branded.

    I've attached a picture of the box and would love to know I've not totally been ripped off or that the scope isn't total junk.

    Spec of the scope is 3-9 x 50 AO

    Please let me know :)
     

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  2. Canon Fodder

    Canon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Depends what you paid for it, it's not a top brand but if it's clear when you look through it and it holds zero then there isn't a problem.
     
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  3. Gazawee

    Gazawee Well-Known Member

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    Starting to feel a little better...

    I unboxed the scope and it seems to be branded 'Snowpeak'

    Managed to find at least 1 retailer online seling for £59.99 which means I only paid a tenner over.

    Anyway would still love to hear from you experts if this is a lame scope and if at £69.95 I got ripped off?
     
  4. Gazawee

    Gazawee Well-Known Member

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    Silly me I forgot to say. I paid £69.95
     
  5. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Depends on what's in the box really - if it's a generic Chinese effort £70's a fair wedge tbh (try looking on ebay for similar models).

    Personally had I been in your position regarding the attitude of the shopkeeper, I'd have been out of there like a shot..
     
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    https://hardairmagazine.com/news/snowpeak-airguns-biggest-airgun-manufacturer-youve-never-heard/

    Snowpeak are basically a massive manufacturer in China that is mostly rebranded for export, which is why most people haven't heard of them.

    I bet the quality of that scope is no worse than most around that price point. You've probably paid over the odds slightly purely from buying from a shop, but the guy has to earn a living so that's just accepted.

    You can get the lower end Hawke's for that sort of money, but lets face it, it's all made in the far East anyway, it just depends on the QC of the company it's made by.

    I'd simply enjoy it for what it is and upgrade when you're ready to.
     
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  7. jesim1

    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    Don't beat yourself up, you basically got some help from the guy and it effectively cost you the price of a tin of pellets more than you could have got it on the net - no bad thing if the guy did help you out?

    Any new hobby can be a minefield for the newbie, take advise from on here and go slow, don't be afraid to ask questions in advance, and make sure it's right for you or walk away. A lot will depend how serious you get, or how deep your pockets are, but you will probably upgrade several times, its part of the hobby, and we all like "something better" :thumb:

    James
     
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  8. Byronic

    Byronic Good thing we are all different, eh?

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    I had a couple of these a few years back from Ebay.

    As others gave said, you paid a little more for having bought it at a local shop - the guy needs to make a living after all.
    And you got some other advice thrown in.

    Advice on here is free - though sometimes contradictory!

    Join a local club if you can.


    What was your previous scope?
    What kind of shooting are you using it for?

    The scopes I had were perfectly adequate, certainly for short range daylight plinking - likely to be fine for whatever most newbies need.

    There is a lot of snobbery - or "social climbing " - in scopes and shooting in general.

    If your back garden is 10 yards long and you only shoot in daylight then this scope is all you need.

    No doubt for longer ranges or more challenging conditions there will be much better, more expensive scopes.

    But what do YOU need?
     
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  9. Gazawee

    Gazawee Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for this :)

    Yeah I prefer to support independent businesses and don't mind paying up to 10% over do it.
     
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  10. Gazawee

    Gazawee Well-Known Member

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    Wise words,

    The chap did 'reluctantly' look over my kit although (as in my experience) like many of the shops Ive been to recently, the staff start off quite grumpy and stand off-ish. A sort of 'like it or lump it sort of attitude'. But he softened up when I was honest about my inexperience and was polite about asking for help.
     
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    Gazawee Well-Known Member

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    Scope that came with the rifle is a Gamo 3-9x40
    Garden is 30 yards long
    Will be shooting from 15-30 yards in daylight
    Would soon like to take out the rats when I get accurate..most likely in low light conditions.
     
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    I've had a few of those 'riflescope' Branded scopes, they're actually not bad.
     
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    This is purely a personal opinion and others may beg to differ but i think £70 for an unbranded scope of that spec is a little high.
    Having said that any scope in that price range branded or unbranded will be made in China so will probably be of a similar spec/quality.
    In fact possibly made in the same factory as the same factory or factories make scopes for various brand names.
    The reason your dealer possibly sells them instead of a branded scope of similar specis because his mark up/profit margin is higher than on a branded scope especially if they import them direct and cut out the middleman so to speak.
    Where budget scopes are concerned like for like there's not a great deal of difference between them and any differences are usually minor.
    Where you may score with a branded scope of similar price is the aftersales/back up service should you have a problem with it.
    But buying a branded scope or a non branded scope of similar spec and price the difference if any won't be like night and day so to speak.
     
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    ajohn Chewing Things Over

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    A 50mm with that mag range doesn't ask much of the optics. It aught to be fine at all usable light levels. As dusk comes on an illuminated reticule is needed if you hunt.

    Distances people shoot at are irrelevant other than sighting the scope in. How fine and how well the scope holds settings. The other thing that usually matters is the style of reticule and the adjustment range of the AO. Style of turrets too maybe, some are easier to adjust.

    More info is needed before anyone can comment on suitability really. I have a scope on an old gun that has no name on it at all. The reason is so that the RFD could stock a cheap scope that was essentially OK. It is.
     
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    I shouldn't worry too much about paying a tenner too much for a generic scope. In time you'll realise it's just the thin end of the wedge.
    Your horoscope says that, now you've been bitten by the bug, you'll be throwing money at this hobby left, right and centre. It's a symptom of this disease, we're all infected, so enjoy it while you can:thumb:
     
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    Seasicksteve Keyboard Hero

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    EastmidsHD Keep pullin' that trigger..

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    Don't take the wrong way, but with my cynical head on I get the impression the guy knew that you were green and took advantage and sold you a scope that is mediocre at best.

    The positive out of this is that you have learnt a lesson (as we all do when venturing into a knew hobby), you can make your money back on the next item you are looking for and shopping around, and take your business elsewhere to a shop that won't try and have your pants down when you're in there spending your money.

    I got caught out when I was on a road trip across the States years ago, I wanted a video camera and the guy talked the hind legs off me and sold me this all singing all dancing camera... Anyway, when I got home I looked online and found out I paid waaaaay over what the crappy camera was selling for, my lesson was certainly learnt the hard way, now I do my homework and exhaust every avenue when buying something out of my comfort zone.
     
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    Seasicksteve Keyboard Hero

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    Great your supporting local businesses too , but pressure sales and being made to feel you had to buy something is poor....

    I'd never use em again
     
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    In life even....
     
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