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Diana Air Rifles????

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Ichabod Armacost, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. Ichabod Armacost

    Ichabod Armacost Donator

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    Good evening esteemed shootists!

    I am a recently joined member, and I have not shot an air rifle in 40 years more or less. I had a number of rifles in my youth, BSA, Relum and a couple of quite nice Dianas. I see from ferreting about on the interweb that Diana are still in business, and appear to be making some very nice air rifles still. I have gotten interested in the Diana 460 magnum, I like it because it looks very traditional, and hasn't got a phut box on the end of the barrel. I have used the search facility here on this forum, but there seems to be very little about them, well nowt of any use anyway, in fact there seems to be very little about them on this forum at all. I like traditional, and I like wood, and nice deep blueing, and it seems to me that Diana still seems capable of pulling this off in style, I have formed this opinion from careful study of their website.

    So do any of you chaps and chapesses have any experience of modern day Diana rifles, and any useful opinions of them would be read with great interest. I should say that the gun shops local to me in Devon, don't seem to carry stocks of them, but there are a few up country that do, so I can't just wander in to my local RFD and have a butchers. Perhaps I should also say that I prefer under leaver springers, though some traditional break barrel jobbies also appeal. I have had a look at Weihrauch and Air Arms offerings and whilst I may in the end go down that route, I would like to follow me fancy first.

    Thanking you in anticipation, Ichabod.
     
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    The Model 54 Airking is awesome - but weighs a tonne!
     
  3. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    HW are still in business too you know!
     
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    hello, well having looked at the list of those air rifles they would not be on my wish list even though they have a long tradition of manufacture, even the PCPs weigh 7.5llb plus and most springers same. maybe some shooters have preference to this but when you consider an HW95Ks weight of 6.8llb and to many their springer of choice or the 90 and well engineered. still if thats what you wish for good luck oh and a warm welcome. if i were thinking RUGER i would get a tuned air hawk
     
  5. Ichabod Armacost

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    I hear you (read you)...........But for me heavy = good, for health reasons, I will be target shooting from a rest, (bags or summat). I think that if I was going to be shooting FT or wandering about the woods looking for me dinner, having to lug the thing around would have me thinking differently.:)

    To Accuspell, I note that the model 54 Air King is a nudge over 10lbs!!!!:cool::D
     
  6. Ichabod Armacost

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    Harland and Wolfe????:eek:..................I know I like heavy but there is a limit!:D
     
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    Bigtoe on the forum has a few dianas he also tunes them maybe he could advise you.
    Atb
    David
     
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    I've only played with the 280, 31 and 34, but I once shot a tuned 54 which was stunning.

    Nice guns :)

    You can order them direct to your door from Germany: http://www.sportwaffen-schneider.com/product_info.php/cPath/40_1678_942_945_1189/products_id/10457

    Usually works out a little cheaper, and DHL deliver about a week after you've paid :)

    Our UK laws prevent mail ordering air rifles but this law does not apply to rifles sourced from other EU countries :rolleyes:

    You will usually need to factor in a replacement mainspring since air rifles are limited to 6 foot pounds in Germany, but it saves faffing around trying to find a stockist or have a gun shipped from RFD to RFD...

    Good luck !
     
  9. gixxer

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    Thumbs up for diana,it is said hw are better made than diana. But remember the ford Sierra ,less weld points than any other car of the era better made.well I guess it was correct but every one had one.
    You go into a field sports shop on the racks ,AA ,HW,gamo,smk . Occasionally a diana .
    If I fancy a shoot I pick up my diana 45 ,52 or 54 .
    the 54 is a stunner on the bench or bipod.a real pleasure to shoot.
    I have hw models but I don't shoot them I guess I prefer my Diana's.
    i think what is important is what your going to shoot ,targets vermin,cal and how the rifle feels to you in your arm and on and on.
    go feel as many as you can.dont discount older rifles that have great reps .
    I even prefer my old BSA supersport to a 97 k. Light accurate does the job.but it is tuned so a little better than stock.
    what ever you choose make your decision in an informed way and love the feel of ease in your shoulder and arms it gives you.
    works for me.
     
  10. Ichabod Armacost

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    Hi Gixxer,

    I agree, having trawled most of the interweb in the last couple of months or so, it seems to me that there are comparatively few Dianas on the racks for sale. Reading this and other forums, it seems to me that people are having problems with the so called superior other makes that they just should not be having, not with the prices folks have to pay for the perceived quality of some of these offerings. I really like the look of the Air Arms TX200, but as well as the folk who are very satisfied with their rifles, there seems to be an inordinate amount of folk who are having problems with them.

    I don't recall from my travels any complaints about the functionality or reliability of Diana rifles, by the way, have you seen the wonderful factory options that Diana offer, some very beautifully worked and finished custom stocks for instance, it's worth a trawl through their website just for a drool!:)

    A 54 or a 460 magnum would do me very nicely, and if I can get some knowledgeable soul to fettle and tweak one for me that would be a bonus. Because of some health issues, I will be unable to shoot in FT or multi position disciplines, so I will only be doing target bench rest, and not competitively, also a bit of plinking now and again just for entertainments sake. I am very much a traditionalist, I like wood and iron, got no interest in the modern competition rifles, all aluminium and plastic. I would probably shoot black powder rifles if I could be arsed to jump through all the hoops for an FAC.:)
     
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    I had a chance at a 54 for a swap once but the weight put me off. I got a chance to shoot one a few months after and I really enjoyed the experience - the weight seemed to be a positive feature in that it absorbed a lot of bounce from the spring and the gun was superb to shoot.

    Thing is, when I looked at it again with a more critical eye, being a sidelever there's a hell of a lot of parts there (which add to the weight) and I imagined what it would be like to strip when compared to a simple break-barrel :coffee:
     
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    Traditionalists we are then,I much prefer the older stuff not too old but between 70s n 90s.
    i did a little hft at 2 clubs but found at the time a lot of snobbery and a little ridicule at springers for the use of ,latter health issues too stopped me going Even.
    the gent to discuss tuning rws diana I would feel is bigtoe afore mentioned ,I think one of his sites is airguntech ,he has in recent years spent time tuning ,short stroking so on a few Diana's with great effect.i believe master tuner ken turner first started short stroking 48/52 in the late 80s and venom too did a few .
    i find Diana's very pleasurable to work on and shoot .
    i have a soft spot for the original 45, 228 , and side leaver variants ,I love nothing more than to sit out back my 52 in 177 cal on a rest and hole punch at 50 to 60.
    it has such a lazy action and has pretty much zilch recoil .the 54 is more accurate but in honesty both need tuning correctly as most rifles do to get the best from them but are great from the box however as I mention I have nothing newer than 93 in my room. However I intend to add a few of the exceptions to age the 350 mag and a pree charged rws .
    I do too like fwb sports anschutz variants which can be fantastic too.
    occasionaly Diana's find their way to sale on here , hanging around a bit so keep them peeled .
    good luck in your search and keep us posted .
     
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    The 48/52 54 variants a simples to strip .even the to1 triggers once you have a guide are simple ,but ask me to strip a hw I've never done one.
    but in honesty very easy rifles to work on..
    agreed the weight is a benefit I find too.
    But I wouldn't advise any one to buy them .leave them all for me
     
  14. Ichabod Armacost

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    Erm no, I would quite like one as well!
     

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