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Der 1984 HW77k, .177, Mit Factory Walnut Stock

Discussion in 'Gun Gallery' started by cloverleaf, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Thanks :)

    Tbh I'm not sure how much better I could make it shoot - really it needs a load of mass at the muzzle I think, which would involve major surgery and as such is certainly off the menu.

    The big question is, do I want to re-finish the stock..? On the one hand it could look a whole lot nicer if the marks were lost, on the other a bit of the gun's orginality would also go with them!
     
  2. lone wolf

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    Fine example of a 77! After learning the hard way with bsa's over the years due to having a certain loyalty to them which was based around using them in my childhood i have now come to the conclusion that i should have went down the hw route, you live and learn, in a ideal world i would love a hw77k from 1983 my birthday or any other hw springer to be honest.

    I would be more inclined to leave it as it is, its not that bad is it, lovely example!

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  3. landymick

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    I know if it was mine it would be left alone & kept original.Its already nice I think.:)
     
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    The laws of diminishing returns come in to play here.
    It's a deluxe field gun which has been used and is still, well, deluxe.
    Clean it, get it shooting how you want it to, halt the progress of any harm like rust etc and enjoy shooting it when you get the time.
    If after a good while you want to sort it aesthetically - you can.
    It's not eating owt, you own it - have a good think before you do owt.
     
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    PS. I had one of those when I was 14.
    Walnut stock in .22
    It was bought from Gunsport in Rotherham.
    Unfortunately, because I was a weedy little **** - I couldn't handle it and it went back and got swapped for an Innova.
    I am now 6'1 weigh 15 stone and dwarf the innova.
     
  6. cloverleaf

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    Thanks guys - it's certainly in no danger of having any stock work atm as I've got plenty of other stuff to do and hate refinishing stocks..

    I'm usually all for keeping stuff original, however this does have its fair share of (repairable) dings and keep thinking of how nice it would look with filled grain and a proper finish :)
     
  7. landymick

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    I see your dilemma but I still would leave it, its got history & when restored its lost in my eyes,it will never be a new out of the box find so leave alone with its age marks.:)
     
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    I can certainly say the HW 77 with a factory Walnut Stock exists as I have one with Tasco 4 x 40 sights fitted sitting snuggly in its gunbag at home.
    It was purchased in the mid eighties by myself & was my pride & joy when I was a teenager.
    Beautiful gun & was so accurate too.
     
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    Lovely rifles....quite heavy....but sling sorts that...I popped a new genuine spring with top hat n guide from tinbum in her along with usual polishing etc...plus polished trigger sears...original jap glass which I have now re parallaxed to airgun ranges...simpleh..simpleh...lovleh...looks like mines not far off yours age wise....super accurate as well and easy to cock
    View attachment 168952
     
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    that woodwork could be stunning with the right work done on it...*cough nath*
     
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    Nice purchase I have always fancied one in 25mm it was good to read a objective opinion. I've always wondered if the 25mm set up was as good as they say or just legend over fact.
     
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    tinbum better than vmach. if you get the kit with the spring you get a spring guide and top hat matched to that spring. half the price of v mach, of which i,ve had many. but you will have to shorten the spring.
     
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    regarding the 25mm 26mm debate i have had both in .177 and .22. To be honest i can tell no difference between them in the shot cycle perhaps i am not very sensitive being more intent on looking for where the pellet goes.the 77 that i have and will never let go is a 26mm set up fitted into a relatively old stock which i stripped and finished. i fitted a tinbum kit and it is close to being a bit hot but not quite. it is so accurate i dont like disturbing it. it is wearing a williams rear sight and a weihrauch globe front sight that i have modified. View attachment 168991 View attachment 168992 i have 2 97,s that i can shoot with scopes so i will keep my 77 for opens because i enjoy it that way and it kind of suits it. as far as 25mm -----26mm divide. practically, in my ever so humble opinion. no difference.
     
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    well over hyped.
     
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    looking at the pic of my 77 above the old stock seems so right in a kind of classic kind of way when used with opens and i have never had any problem getting onto a scope either. i,m not a fan of the new 77 stock. there was one with this guns action but i sold it.
     
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    nice guns the 77
    and looks like it needs a little tidying up which i am sure you will sort
     
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    The 25mm setup was as good it could be at the time of introduction, has it been bettered Hmm ??

    But what suits me might not suit you ?

    I'm old school and still like a Venom type of firing cycle, quick, smooth and some will say snappy.

    25mm piston/com tube 77's and some 97's still pop up for sale now and then, if the rifle happens to be a bit rough in looks, they make an ideal model to try out your tuning skills out, if that's the way you want to go ??
     
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    Is this a mk1 with a push button release for underlever

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    It is a MK1 , no button on these.

    Simply pull down the lever held by a spring loaded bearing.It was changed to the more robust but more hassle push catch on the underside for the MK11.
     
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    There is a button on the catch on the photo?

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