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dedicated rat gun

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by ratharvester, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. ratharvester

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    Hi guys,what are your thoughts on a decent short, light gun for ratting to fit my ns50 on to? I was thinking along the lines of bsa ultra tactical in .25 or brocock contour in .22.what experiences have you guys had with these rifles and am I best off with .22 or .25? I just could do with a dedicated light ratter me thinks:D:D:D:D:D
     
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    I would say .22 ultra if your going new. If your going second hand i would go for a .22 fx verminator mk1.
     
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    .25/.22 Ultra....25 would cause big trauma to rats but so would .22 and Ultras are great guns.
     
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    I've been ratting for ages with a .177 and get very few runners!! I have heard and seen a vid of rats running off before the .25 pellet had time to hit it!!
    I very nearly went for a bigger caliber but honestly I've never been left wanting!!
     
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    I'm going to use a .22 sharp innova, probably one of lightest pnuematics about, and very quiet, so much so I'm not going to bother silencing it.
    And I don't have to worry about shot count :)
     
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    Agreed!
    If its just for rats and to keep your r-10 company id say a .25 ultra.......or the new .25 hatsan at-44 tactical wuth new pistol grip and removable stock,comes with 3mags and has mag holders built in,good shot count over a ultra.

    thats what id be looking at mate,but its always nice to shoulder a rifle and get that feel for it.

    gaz
     
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    ive also just got a tin of pest control in .22 for my scorpion se to see what there like as a dedicated rat pellet.

    im looking at using my scorpion as a all round gun and getting it zeroed and set up on jsb's then running the pest control through it at ranges up to 20yrds and getting aim points.

    then i have a gun for all round shooting and if i was ratting or doing close range work the pest control pellets can be used and vice versa.

    plenty of range time though which i am lacking lately with work.

    so i would not rule out .22 at all.

    gaz
     
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    I have a ultra se .177 i use for ratting/rabbits actually its my dedicated nv rig.
    A Well placed pellet stops them in there tracks.

    But .22 or .25 ultra would be spot on.
     
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    I'm using my r10 at the moment with h&n Baracuda hunter extreme in .177 which are great pellets and do a good job hunting but it's fairly heavy with the ns50 on and I would like to have a gun with a smaller scope and leave the ns50 on permanently zeroed at 15 yards.looks like an ultra will be keeping the r10 company,be a shame not to keep it in the family lol but .25 or 22? Decisions decisions! Love the verminator too but they fetch good money.
     
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    Hey gaz, try h&n Baracuda hunter extreme,they really take some beating, 5p group at 35 yards which in my opinion is good for a hollow point.rats hardly have time to blink and leaves decent trauma in .177 so .22 would be even better.
     
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    I bought a bsa ultra se .22 for ratting with an ns50 it worked very well, I had a Simmons wtc 1.5-5x20 which would be my first choice permanent ratting scope
     
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    Im using an Ultra SE in .22 and its perfect for rats, i get 50-60 good shots from a fill, i have read that the .25 due to much reduced pellet speed gives the rat a fraction of a second to flinch at 20 yards and risks a non instant kill or even possibly a miss!. The brocock is accurate but 35 shots a fill, that's not enough for a decent nights ratting.
    The Verminator is a beast and i want one in my gun cabinet for no other reason than to look at it :p
     
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    Yeah .22 over .25, ive actually had .25 .22 and 2x .177 ultras for ratting (plus many more, all used with ns50 and ns200). With .25 you do get quite a few rats dodging pellets, its only really good for 15yards on rats because of how flinchy they are. .25 is fine on most other quarry at further ranges if your good with aim points and a range finder. From my experiences i find .177 the best rat calibre ive used so for, purely for the speed of the pellet vs rat reaction time. Im yet to try .20 but i think it would be the ultimate rat cal.
     
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    hello, how heavy is the ns50? if rifle to light might be top heavy? what range you most shoot, how many shots per night roughly determines the type of rifle as you dont want fill up half way through shooting time, whats your budget? a good multi shot action so you get a few shots off if theres many about.i use a .22 most but sometimes a .177 and jsb heavies
     
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    I chose .22 over .25. I've been frequently tempted by .25 but at the end of the day I have to ask why?

    .22 work fine, there's a lot of pellet choice & I don't need another caliber in my life - two is enough.
     
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    hi mate here is a pic of that new at-44 i mentioned.

    i know its a bit LAPD SWAT looking but its got good features and is £375 new so its got a warranty.

    be interesting to hear if anyone has one?


    gaz
     
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    To be fair Gaz I think it's looks really good with lots of good points.the only trouble is the spec says it weighs 8.6 pounds,which makes it heavier than my r10.I wish it was lighter and I would have one no probs if it was lighter.
     
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    i know there not everyones cup of tea but for a dedicated ratter i think (weight aside in your case due to you having noodle arms:) ) its a good cheap option.

    ive heard these newer ones are good bits of kit and id be tempted in on for a cross over to .177

    gaz
     

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