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De-pinger advice

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by ovy4213, May 4, 2014.

  1. ovy4213

    ovy4213 Pro Poster

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    Having taken my parker hale phoenix mk2 .177 out for its first hunting trip on Friday, it turned out to be a very accurate and effective hunting tool, almost zero muzzle report with the weihrauch moderator fitted, however the action had a fair amount of noise only really noticeable when being quiet for hunting. I know you can get a de-pinger for the likes of the s4** ranges etc! does anyone know if you can get one for the phoenix! or if you can point me in the direction of anyone that can help with this issue. :up:
     
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    Not to sure mate as if I'm thinking of the rite rifle these have the pressure vessel in the butt, most pcp's like the aa400's etc have the de-pinger fitted into the air cylinder !

    Is the ping coming from inside the rifle's butt i.e next to your ear or from the action itself, if it's coming from inside the butt then I would suggest that it's not very audible to anything or anybody other than yourself, you could take the bottle out and wrap it in something to try and deaden the sound a bit !

    one of the airgun mags this month has an article on the PH Pheonix something about a quick fill adapter if your interested !!!

    I'll dig it out and let you know which one it was matey !!!

    June 2014 "Airgun Shooter" page 84-85 !!!
     
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  3. ovy4213

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    Yeah that's the downside of the phoenix, its excellent in every way but the hidden air cylinder makes things difficult in a certain way.
    The ping is coming I suspect from the action inbetween the 2 wooden pieces of the stock, as both me shooting it and my brother hunting with me heard it.
    I don't think I can wrap the bottle as the hole in the stock for it to slide into is only just big enough for the bottle for a very snug fit.
    Thanks for the article aswell, I'll check it out as a quick fill option would be very useful as always unscrewing the bottles wears out the orings inbetween.

    On the parker hale website they have a open view moving action of the gun which shows its internals movements if that can help ID where the sound may be resonating from.
    http://www.phoenixairguns.co.uk
     
  4. cloverleaf

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    Sounds like it's the striker spring you can hear - I've heard good things about using heat-shrink tubing over the coils of the spring (on other guns) to quieten them down, however I'm not familiar with the guts of the Pheonix so can't say how feasible this might be with relation to this specific rifle..
     
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    I have used heat shrink on the spring in my daystate and it was pretty effective, dropped the power aswell as it didn't allow the spring to uncoil as quick as it I'd, so had to adjust the hammer a bit, but overall it was better than before.
     
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    The "ping" usually comes from the "sudden shift of air" as the rifle is fired and the "valve/chamber" is refilled, what a de-pinger does is slow the shift of air inside the reservoir by creating a dam effect and "slowly" allowing the air behind the de-pinger to refill the void that was left in front of the de-pinger by the firing of the rifle !!!

    I don't know whether a buddy bottle fed air rifles can have a de-pinger fitted or not or even if they need one, having said the above I've got a distinct feeling that "cloverleaf" could well be rite as I have a "Venom Viper" that has a de-pinger fitted and I still get a a faint ping from the action but not as bad as the "Hatsan AT44" I had a couple of years ago which wasn't fitted with a de-pinger, that had a hollow synthetic stock and was quite loud !!!

    Thought the quick fill adapter would quite useful, as you said the continual unscrewing of the bottle will wear the threads out sooner or later !!!

    Cheers buddy !
     
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    Thanks for the advice, I'll take the side panel off the phoenix tonight to get a look at the internals, see what I can make of them, the gun is completely standard so may give the hammer and trigger sears a polish whilst I'm in there. :D
     
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    Post some pics up once your inside please I've just bought the quick fill model and I don't want to go opening mine up until I've put a couple of tins of pellets through it after that I won't be bothered about the warranty.
     
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    I wouldn't mess with it till warranty runs out as its a complex gun and can be expensive to fix.
    However after taking the casing off the action, underneath the casing there was only the cocking sears and the main trigger sear, aswell as the magazine cocking arm, the main stuff I want access to needs more stuff taken away for full access, which I will be doing when I have a full day incase I feck it up somehow and have to work out how it all goes together again. :up:
     

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