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Daystate X2W Sports R

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by chiz, Sep 30, 2007.

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  1. chiz

    chiz Engaging Member

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    I've just put a deposit down on one of these little beauties. (pics in gallery when i get it)

    £700 rifle only. 10 Shot, Sports Design Walnut Stock, Regulated.

    But before i go collect it, i'd like to know what people think of them.

    Have i made the right choice?

    Chiz
     
  2. Rockabilly

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    chiz, for the money your paying your far better off buying
    a rapid, loads more shots per fill, and far superiour build quality;)
     
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    I was looking at rapids as well!! But my knowledge of rapids is even less than what i know about normal pcp's.

    The one he recommended to me was over a grand, for the rifle alone. And he said it was only good for about 150 shots per fill, which sounds disappointing to say the least. Considering the X2 is good for 120, apparently.

    I can transfer my deposit over to another rifle if I change my mind, that's why i'm asking around before I commit.
     
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    chiz, you can get a brand new rapid for the money your paying
    which are considered by most as the ultimate hunting rifle
    the build quality is second to none , plus there easy to maintain,
    do yourself a favour get one (make sure its .177);)
     
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    Right, i'm gonna take a look around right now, i'm convinced that what the bloke in the shop was telling me wasn't correct.

    Any recommendations for rapids will be greatly appreciated, as well as decent shops in the Newcastle/North East area.
     
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    try bagnall & kirkwood , greys street newcastle, there fair and dont usually fill people with sh44e
     
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    That's where i was looking!!!!!

    I've bought pretty much all my gear from them. They've been sound so far, i was just a little bit unsure about the price and specification of the rapids they were showing me, but that's because i don't know a great deal about rapids. I'm going to take another look tomorrow morning, armed with a little bit more knowledge.
     
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    i no where theres a mint 177 rapid for sale in sunderland a few months old of a genuine bloke pm me if you want his number
     
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    Hi Chiz,
    I've owned a regulated X2 with the synthetic stock.I would get 80+ shots(50+ from the non regged version) from a charge,which I thought was pretty good considering the size of the cylinder.I also found it to be as accurate as any other rifle I've owned and not too pellet fussy,though best results were obtained with AA Field and Daystate 4.52's.
    The negatives I had with it were now and again it would release a shot at anywhere between 6 and 9 ft/lb,though a return to factory would have sorted this.Also one of the pins holding a trigger sear in place would work loose from the housing and I had numerous pellets pulled back into the breech block which jammed the trigger and bolt.This was despite taking great care in seating the pellets past the o-ring in the magazine.I also found the stock to be too short for me and the pistol grip too small.
    Personally,if I were to choose between a Daystate and a Rapid,I would take the Rapid every time,with the Air Arms S410 a very close second.
    My main rifle is a bit of a hybrid,with an S-type action,MK.1/2 16" screwcut barrel,seated in a 2007 Mk.1 stock.For me this is the best handling Rapid I've used.I also have the option of using a 280cc bottle while hunting which makes it lighter and more pointable,and a 500 cc bottle for when I'm plinking and target shooting.
    I can't think of a Rapid that costs a grand and only gives 150 shots,unless it's a Mk.1 in .177 with 400 cc bottle and custom stock as all the regulated Rapids I've owned(MFR,S-Type,MK.2) would give 200+ shots in .177.I've always found Bagnalls a great shop with a good range of rifles,so you have a good chance of finding a rifle you feel comfortable with,because ultimately you can always get an idea of a rifles reliability and performance by asking on forums,but only you can decide which rifle feels the best.:)
    Good luck with whatever you choose.
    Chris.
     
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    Thanks Chris,

    The Theoben S-Type has got me tempted. Been looking at it on Theoben's site, I know Bagnalls are willing to order anything in for me, so i might suggest that to them tomorrow and see what price they can do it for me. Theoben's RRP is £825 for the rifle with bipod included, does that sound reasonable?

    Topcat, you'll be hearing from me in minutes few.

    As soon as you empty your inbox that is!! Ha Ha!
     
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    The S-type is a fantastic rifle.I owned one for a while but found it a bit cumbersome as my shooting involves a lot of stalking and crawling about.Thats why I went back to a Rapid with a 16" barrel and 280cc bottle.If you go for the S-type I'd recommend the 400cc bottle as it's less front heavy and you could fit an AWT silencer which really looks the part.:cool:
    Chris.
     
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    Worth the money then?

    I'm already abusing this months wages by going for the daystate, so i really need to justify it to myself before spending much more.

    I reckon i would need to physically pick one up and see how it feels, as i'm used to the heavy rifles i use at work, but quite how heavy this thing is i don't know. Especially when i get a lamp and suchlike on it!!
     
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    chiz the rrp for a theoben s type is £921
     
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    Nothing wrong with your initial choice. The Daystate is a fine gun and Daystate's aftersales is miles ahead of Theoben's. I've shot many Theobens and I've never found one I'd want to keep. If I wanted an FAC airgun they'd be top of my list but who needs a 12ft/lb gun that'll do 300+ shots to a fill. I can't carry more than half a dozen rabbits and if ratting very few folk will kill three figures worth in a session. Big shot counts are irrelevant. Also Theoben used to use Anschutz barrels - I don't know if they still do but frankly they are not as good as a Walther or Weihrauch unit being VERY pellet fussy. Loads of Rapids sport an aftermarket barrel - BSA ones are popular for this. If you are mainly hunting then either stick with the Daystate or consider the HW100. The Weihrauch has superb build quality and two mags as std and is cheaper than the Theobens or the Daystate. Price up a spare mag or two for a Theoben before buying one. Sit down whilst you're doing that though as the cost is ridiculous.
     
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    i have shot most daystates and think they are rubbish and as for the excellent after sales thats a nother load of b******s regd rapids are the best hunting gun you can get
     
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    SPOT ON topcat i had nothing but trouble with my daystate went back for repairs 3 times before it got sorted , would"nt have one for free!!:mad:
     
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    you were lucky that you got yours sorted i lost a hell of a lot of money just got filled with shi.. every time it went back for repair had an stype over a year knocks the spots of any daystate the greatest air rifle ever made s type177 the king
     
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    Ive had both daystate and theoben rifles, and when it comes to a warranty repair daystate get the gun picked up sorted and sent back at no cost to the owner.
    Theoben say put it in the post at your cost and include payment for returning the gun. :confused:
     
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    The huge lack of Theobens in the winners circle at HFT or FT events should say something. Theobens are grossly overpriced for what is frankly decades old technology. They are like stepping out of a Mondeo into a Cortina. Pull the trigger on a Rapid and you can feel every part of the firing action in motion. They are agricultural. It's only in the last few months they've bothered to realise that a cap gun trigger isn't up to the job of releasing an airgun pellet properly.
     
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    theoben mk4 trigger best in the buisness
     
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