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cz 452 and 455

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by Evolve82, May 28, 2015.

  1. Evolve82

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    Can anyone offer me an explanation of the differences please? From what I have found out seems very little!

    Also is it worth paying the extra for a heavy steel barrel?
     
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    Thanks for that Harry. Really helpful page. Still undecided about which to go for. Doesn't seem like it matters as long as the price is right for me!

    What are your/peoples thoughts on buying a secondhand .17hmr?
     
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    Get an anschutz. Better than a cz and will last a lifetime.
    17hmr is ok if you want to just kill. If it's not shot in the head it will be messy
     
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    I've got both CZ and Anschutz rifles and find them both superb with the CZ having a 3 year warranty if bought new.

    I've shot hundreds of rabbits with the HMR and it's only really made a mess on a few of the head shot ones. Long range (120+yards) body shots don't really make a mess of the meat but it does mess up the internals which I throw away anyway.
     
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    452 was when they got it right... 455 is when they :censored: it up! Heavy barrel? Yes.. always.. 17hmr ok as long as you don't plan on using any club ranges.. :)
     
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    Dan, Rutgers are nice mate, I got the .22lr American rimfire ,but they do a .17 version, which ever one you get go for a new one mate, oh and check your ammo for splits :up:.
    cz are nice, I like my t-bolt better,and the ruger, both have flush mags
     
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    Thanks mark, what's wrong with a 2nd hand hmr? Have had a few people say that to me!

    Never shot a t-bolt before -not sure of the straight pull?! Have shot a few different cz and have been impressed.

    Going to get a 10/22 ruger. I have my eye on a good cheap one but want my hmr first!
     
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    my 10/22 is really really cheap :)

    my cz452 american hmr might also be for sale soon, just waiting for my ticket to return to make sure all's on there as expected :up:
     
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    For the sake of couple of quid I went for new t-bolt and ruger and second hand 10/22, dirt cheap there are,the t-bolt I love it, it's light , short well easy to shoot from a jeep, lighting fast bolt, people bang on about the triggers on them, but I love it,it's very crisp with no travel ,just great little gun, plus 10 shot mag is flush fitting to the stock, oh and on the synthetic version you get a extra mag.it was a no brainier for me.my mate has the cz, I think my mate prefers my browning too, but you won't hear him say so lol :rolleyes:
     
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    I have both 452 and 455 lr, they mine are both as good as each other , they both have the heavy varmint barrels the 455 has a slightly thicker barrel. i the 455 has the ability to change to .17 hmr and .22 wmr, it takes a minute or so to swap over then obviously re zero is needed, I have the .22wmr kit but rarely use it to be honest, oh and 455 is available with thumb hole stock.
     
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    hello, when i do get my permit i was looking at the CZ 455 LR but maybe i should go 452 LR in a varmit .22 or sillouette, saying that the new browning T bolt looks nice but dont want a 10 shot mag, i presume can be used in single shot? the CZ has a 1 shot tray and 5 shot mag. cheers
     
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    I think I'm right in saying that with the Varmit the stock is that bit wider to accommodate the heavier barrel (not 100 per cent sure).also, they don't make the 452's anymore. Bought a 452 HMR and a 455 LR before Christmas, both 16" Americans, and they are deadly:up: Also, three year warranty with Edgar bros
     
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    I think that you may find this article of interest!

    http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344852

    Chris
     

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