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Crosman 1377/King ratcatcher hybrid question.

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Honest Bob, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. Honest Bob

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    Could anyone answer this question for me please. If you strip a crosman 1377c,down, and fit a king rat barrel and breach + the rifle stock. would the result be legally a rifle or a pistol.
     
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    It would give you about 8fpe if your ratty was 11+
     
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    Thanks for the reply. But I want to know, if the result would be a rifle or a pistol, in the eyes of the law.
     
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    imo it would still be a pistol with a 1377 or 1322 tube but if you used a 2289 tube also known as a backpacker(exactlly the same tube only designated a rifle/carbine due to it having a 12"barrel and a stock) it would be classed as a rifle
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    Thanks for that. I will have to see if I can get hold of a 2289 tube. Bob.
     
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    When I checked the same thing with my local firearms office the said they would class it as a rifle but as Ped says best be doubly safe and get a 2289 tube, some on the bay now, albeit from the USA.

    There are posts on here where owners with the same setup have had their guns taken for testing and returned without issue. As it seems this varies force to force always best playing safe.

    Warning though this can cause a debate ;)
     
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    you might struggle to get one in the uk but are available in the states i know david at alchemy airwerks has some as he put one aside for me before christmas
    with a flat top piston and valve and a bit of work they'll give power to the limit my 2289 with a 14" barrel gives 11.5 and my 14" barrelled 760 hybrid does about the same
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    Thanks for that. I have found a 2289 pump tube, inc internals, in the US, they will ship to the UK, just emailed them, for a total price, ink shipping. PS. Would be nice to hear if anyone has a 2289 main tube going begging. Thanks, Bob.
     
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    I misslead the idea.

    1377 barrel on krc tube and stock will be still slassed as rifle but you will get serious power decrease

    Krc barrel on 1377 tube will be still a pistol, but will shot over the pistol legal limit

    If you putting krc barrel and stock on 1377 tube, make sure that the final result is 60+ cm
     
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    If I put the king rat 14inc barrel and shoulder stock onto a 1377 tube, it would end up aprox 76cm long, from the end of the stock to the tip of the barrel, in old money, aprox 30ins total length. would this then be a rifle. Thanks, Bob.
     
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    its a definate grey area and as gary says would probally depend on the individual officer and force also the 300/600 rule does not apply to airguns
    if you can't get that one of ebay bob let me know as i can probally get an other when i order mine
    ped
     
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    should be if there is nothing stamped on the main tube about 'pistol' or power limitations
    otherways better to sand it off or to get custom tube
     

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