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Cp2 Project

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by dh131286, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. dh131286

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    Well I have aquirred a cp2, so not sure if it should be in this section or not...but it is currently setup as a pistol so here goes.

    I fancied another little "cheap" ish project.

    After the hw70 project making a new stock from scratch I did say I would not make one again but after looking at the stock on the cp2 it looks a hell of a lot easier to do the inletting on this so am now thinking about making one for this. Not just a replacement stock as I am also thinking of converting it to hpa with an External paintball bottle and want to include a mount for the bottle in the rear of the stock.

    I've still got some wood left over from the hw70 project but now trying to source the parts for the hpa conversion, I'm assuming it can be done. Any help of info would be greatly appreciated.

     
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    have a word with Ped on here hes into all things cp1and2 and conversions
     
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    GMAC do a bulkfill adapter for the CP1 that fits just fine, plenty of reasonably priced paintball tanks available on eBay and Amazon, top it off with a ninja regulator set to 850psi, job done. :thumb:
     
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    Would that be the one listed at cp1m? Thanks
     
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    Can be done dh.
    I have made a couple of stocks for both CP1 and CP2 and PP800. Pistol stocks tho not shoulder stocks. Currently making another for the PP800 (CP2 is the same fit). No idea on the HPa tho as never done it. As said already GMAC or Ped is a good shout. I can do lighter hammer springs or trigger springs.

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    Yep, Just a CP1 with 8 shot magazine.
    :thumb:
     
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    the cp2 has a hole in the tube so to pressurise the tube you need an extended valve front to seal to the tube
    a 79 gas block will fit but you'll need to either cut the front of the stock or machine the barrel band quite a bit
    the gmac direct to valve hpa adapters suffer from low plenum so reg pressure needs to be upped to get full power and they can leak a bit
    I converted a cp2 for a lad who worked for my mate and to look right you need a very short tank and I did a rear mounted bottle on a cp1 I had to see if it could be done 13091995_1684793131783408_7461307065750340836_n.jpg
     
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    I will probably go the gmac route as I would like it to be able able to use co2 powerlets if needed. What do you mean the regged pressure has to be upped?

    Thanks. Dan
     
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    the reg doesn't open fast enough top feed air during the shot so when the valve opens the available air has to fill the extra volume which reduces the air pressure behind the pellet
    increasing plenum gives a bigger volume of air to fill the extra volume and so reduces the pressure loss or if you increase the reg pressure you compensate for the pressure drop
     
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    Any recommendation on where to purchase ninja regs and possibly bottle in the UK?
     
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    I was looking at that but after doing some digging it looks like the 13ci first strike will now only come with a reg set for 300psi. Also digging further it looks like first strike are making a 10ci bottle with a reg set at 850psi so could possibly go for that
     
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    most 13ci's come as standard in roughly 850
    look on evil bay and you'll find them from £30 upwards
    I bought a brand new one the other month I think it was about £25 posted
     
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    Ordered a 10ci first strike bottle/reg so hopefully it's a Diddy little bottle as I want to keep this cp2 as a pistol. Once that arrives I can get all my measurements for how I want to make the stock. May not use the poplar wood I have. I'm tempted to use laminate for this one
     
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    The bottle has arrived! Proper Diddy little thing it is. Didn't realise it's this small but it's even better for me as I do want to try and make this as compact as possible.

    I have a selection of mount arriving to see how is best to mount it.

     
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    Small update, nothing much.
    All but one of my mounts have arrived. Just waiting on one that I could only find in China and that's the one I want to work with as it's a rail extender so I can move the mount (for the bottle) further towards the trigger.

    Mocking up using the mounts I have will work ok and ive roughly worked out the routing of pipe/hose and fittings needed to get from the pistol to the bottle. I am still waiting for gmac to have the adapter in stock.

    Once all that's is done I can then finally start work on the stock as I will know where everything sits. Stock is either going to be laminate or use the left overs of the poplar I have
     
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    This is the rough layout so far.

    Have a gauge either side of the reg so I know what's in the bottle and what's on the regged side

    Only issue is the slide check valve will not fit with my moderator if it's stays as a pistol. The moderator is 25mm diameter. Are there any mods that are around 20mm diameter?

     
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    Well the pictures in the post above the set up would not work like that as the vent/valve being screwed directly into the gmac adapter (when it arrives) would fail on the moderator when used as a pistol. I did consider making an adapter to overcome this I have found another way to route the fittings and hose.

    You will see in the pics in this post the new configuration for the hose and fittings. As said above I did want to connect the vent/valve straight in meaning I could have a 180° loop on the hose to fit. But after experimenting the hose kinked as it was too much of the bend to work so I played about and what you see below is the outcome. Not 100% happy with the hose routing but it's not kinked and I can screw the bottle in and out with no fouling and it does not foul on the moderator.


    I may end up piping it all in solid with no hose. But I do want that vent/valve in place as it allows me to shut off and vent quickly incase anything may go wrong.

    I cannot believe how much them fittings cost! Although considering the pressures this uses I'd rather not risk cheaping out on eBay stuff (they may well be fine but I'd rather not risk it)
    This little cheap project is starting to add up now but it's all good fun and looking forward to using it.

    Just need to gmac adapter now and then I can start on the stock.

    A few differnent pistol/rifle/scope combos below just to show how it looks.

     
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