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Question Copper mag rotator

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by andyhawkx3, Jul 16, 2008.

  1. andyhawkx3

    andyhawkx3 Major Poster

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    I was out doing some targets, yesterday using my S410, l started getting miss fires, i.e. the mag wasn't turning when I pulled the bolt back, l took the mag out, and could see the silly little clip :down:, that's used to rotate the mag, had weakened, have Air arms improved, on this idea, of using a bent piece of copper, or do l have to get another one, if so it will be my second
     
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    No Andy, l haven't explained it properly:eek:, its not the mag, its the little clip/arm that moves up, and rotates the mag, when the bolt is pulled back
     
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    My s200 multi shot conversion has a plastic arm to rotate the mag and mine is the air arms manufactured one
     
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    Still the copper bit on the 410 I think you will find.Order a couple and keep one as a spare :mad:
     
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    ive always woried about that problem:eek:

    it is a bit flimsy isnt it:rolleyes:

    you'd think theyd have something a bit stronger :shrug:

    hope you can fix it soon anyway
     
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    Yes, Matt, they are very flimsy, crap l call em, can you get just the copper bit, do you have to buy the brass part its screwed onto, anybody know:confused:
     
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    Would it be possible to make one out of spring steel, i have no idea what the part looks like as i never used a 410 budget gun. :D
     
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    It must be a recognised problem as I see AA have put a special note of care in the instruction guide for this very reason ???
     
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    yep they do.

    :rtfm::D

    a well at least one good thing has come out of this.

    we can prove that AA S410 isnt the perfect gun after all:D
     
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    I must be honest, its the only problem I have had, with, what I call the the S410 MK1,:):up: being the MK2 is the anti tamper version, which l wouldn't want, at half the price:(:down:......
     
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    There is one thing that you can do, so you will not have this problem again.
    I am speaking from experience, but for different gun and different part, but the solution is the same.

    Take the part out that is damaged and go to a machinist and tell him to make you the exact same part but from strong metal.
    This means that you will not have your gun in operation for a while, but this means that you will never have to take it apart for this reason.

    This is how i solve problems like this.
     
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    Andy, the item you've highlighted is listed in the instructions as the "indexing spring", but I can't find a part number for it. I'm pretty sure it's made of "beryllium copper" which is a very special 'springy' sort of copper and not readily available in anything other than very large quantities. If I can get hold of a small amount material I could make them very easily, I'll see what I can do.
    Making it from a stronger material I'm affraid won't work, as it has to be able to spring past the magazine, ready to index again the next time the bolt is pulled back. Making it any stronger would ultimately wreck the magazine.
     
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    I was thinking that myself, that is having to bypast the mag, as the clip, goes back down....Buzz, tell me can you get at the above parts, on your S410, or is that also got anti-tamper screws!!!!
     
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    get an S400 and the mag kit ad on, the indexing arm in your finger:D
     

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