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Coming from a position of complete ignorance.....

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Ichabod Armacost, May 26, 2014.

  1. Ichabod Armacost

    Ichabod Armacost Donator

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    Also not wishing to trawl through all 951 hits I got for "laser sight" on the search facility, I would like to ask you good folk........

    What is the best / most powerful laser beam thingy you can get? I am talking about those gizmos that project a beam of laser light onto the target as a red spot, I seem to recall being told that the cheapy ones fizzle out at around 50 yards or less?

    Here is another question for the wise sages amongst us, regarding digital night sights. Can a digital night sight be used in day light, or do they just white out big time because there is too much light?

    Many thanks in anticipation of being enlightened:)
     
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    Laser thingy's, I know nothing about.
    Digital night sights, I recently bought a Yukon Photon and this can be used during the day
    with the aid of a filter which is supplied with the sight.
    Lee.
     
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    Cheers Lee, is the Yukon as good in daylight as say fairly decent glass?
     
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    The best man to talk to would be Terry 1001, he is an Oracle on Night Vision.
    Lee.
     
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    To be honest, I have used mine in the day but mainly for zeroing before going out at night. It is a serious bit of kit for the money and when mounted on the rifle it
    just looks like an extravagant pair of telecopics. It is a thing you have to get used too, night vision. It is clear in the day but it is not in colour, say black and white.
    So some colours merge all depending what you want it for. Night time is totally different which is what they are meant for.
    Lee.
     
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    Here's a very basic explanation:

    Yukon Photon

    The photon is only just acceptable to use in daylight because your looking at a poor grainy black and white digital picture through the scopes eyepiece on an internal scope screen your not looking directly through the scopes glass.

    Behind the scope NV layout

    This is the type people can make themselves (DIY NV) or you can buy a dedicated one (Nitesite NS50/200). This uses a night vision video camera placed directly behind scopes ocular lens which projects the picture on to a screen normally placed on top of the scope. The better the quality of the camera used determines the picture quality which is in colour in the daytime and can be used day or night time.

    With a Photon you shoulder the gun as normal looking through the scope but with a behind the scope set up the gun is normally used from the chest/hip or placed on something as the screen will be too close for the gun to be shouldered.
     
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    Thanks to Neil and Lee:up: If I can get some info now on the laser beam doofers, I will be sorted.:)...........................(doofer is a word where I come from)!
     
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    laser thingy=2types one is a red dot scope the red dot being your reticle at 50m the red dot is as big as your whole target (a rabbit) not kill zone the other are laser designators which is a zoomable laser . when used at night with the beam set wide it can be used as night vision set on top of your scope out to 200yds hope this helps garry
     
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    Ive used a few lasers over the last few years. If you can get it zero'd into your scopes zero, you can use it to range find quickly as the dot should tell you where to roughly hold over/under. That's all i would use them for though.
     
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    Neil has given the answer for digital sights, the Photon is really a night sight that can be used in the day but the picture is poor compared to a scope. Add ons work well but really the only reason to use oneis if you are recording. Scopeless builds work well day and night up ti the resolution of the camera and viewing device.
    Most of the laser pointers are nearly useless, very few can be zeroed accurately and they usually project a 'beam' which consists of 3 spots sitting one above the other. The distance you can see them depends more on the atmosphere - in rain or dust they don't work at all well and in daylight you can only see them a few feet away (unless you build a very powerful one which would then probably set light to things). Green lasers are more visible than red. They would be ok for short range night work if your quarry will stand still while you shine a laser beam in its eyes.
    They can be used for rangefinding but work better if well separated from the scope and if the scope has multi aim points and if you can remember all the information. Chairgun has an option for showing the laser line so you can have a look at the results there quite easily.
     
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    Thanks Terry, and everyone else of course. I was just wondering whether they were toys that I might want to get involved with. I do have a Nikko Stirling Laserking scope that I bought off some bloke on here, ;) and it just led me to thinking of other things.

    ATB. Ray.
     

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