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Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by buzzard, Jul 2, 2014.

  1. buzzard

    buzzard Member

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    Hi, I've introduced myself in the right place and had some advice already, I'm thinking of a good springer and having had weihrauchs before ( a long time ago ) I'm thinking of an hw 97 but I was wondering in your opinion what difference is there between it and the hw77. Cheers for now John.
  2. themadspread

    themadspread Donator

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    thers not much between them at try and shoulder them both and get the one that feels right for you
  3. Accuspell

    Accuspell Pro Poster

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    Uttoxeter, Staffordshire.
    I bet the older 77 is better built than newer 97.......it will be heavier as a result. Are you worried about the third generation down from you having to replace the spring and seal?
  4. engraver

    engraver Keyboard Hero

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    Difference is a shorter barrel and silencer on the hw97 to full length 77, although a 77 carbine is like a 97 without the silencer and barrel latch, plus the 97 has a slightly higher cheek piece, although the newer 77s have like a revamped stock of late.

    Personally I would buy a 97 simply because I prefer the look of the end of the barrel.

    The really old hw77s were made from better steel than the newer guns, I hear that a lot from people, but that alone wouldn't sway me unless it was of course a Venom or Airmasters version or something.

    I have shot 97s and Ive shot 77s and to be fair the 77s as standard to me still had a fair old twang to them in an untuned state, the 97s have behaved a bit better, and I believe at one point the hw97s came with a square mainspring, but the ones Ive shot have had a round one, but I got them to shoot better using a Titan spring alone and a matching spring guide, as the Titans have a coating on them and vibe far less.

    Anyway Im sure a well tuned hw97 with something like a venom kit fitted would shoot as nice as a Tx, so theres where my money would go if I ever buy another springer, the TX I owned wanted for no tuning whatsoever, you couldn't have made it smoother if you tried.

    I think to get a 97 or 77 doing the same kind of cycle, you would need to have the piston buttoned as well as a kit, as the Airarms piston is already done in effect, but I never had the Tx apart as I didn't need to, but apparently they don't have much preload if any so they must be a doddle to work on if need be.

    I just think a TX is like a ready tuned HW but straight out the box so its a no brainer to me, apart from brand loyalty I don't know why anyone would buy a Hw springer whilst TX200s are readily available, and the looks of the pro sport absolutely wipes the floor with any other springer on the market, but some don't like the slightly different recoil to the TX or the underlever cocking, and I one of those people:D

    Anyway all the best keep us posted.
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2014

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