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Cheap CO2 Rifle

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by genemad, Apr 1, 2014.

  1. genemad

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    Hi folks, just thinking of buying a co2 rifle but cash is tight as with everyone right now. Ive seen the SMK XS78 and I like the look and the price but could do with some good honest opinions. So if anyone has any views Id welcome them. At the min. Im using BSA Airsporter mk2, Imp. Model D and a Cometa 400.
     
  2. SteveO

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    I would go for the XS79 as it's easier to modify to bulk fill C02 or HPA (high pressure air)

    I have one, it's cheap but quite nicely made and has huge modification potential, If you can undo a nut and bolt and remove a screw you will be able to work on the gun without many problems!

    Prices vary from £95 - £120 depending on the RFD
     
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    Cheers mate sounds like a decent deal. Dun sum work on my rifles already so shudnt be too hard.
     
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    What SteveO said, really....I`ve got one, and I like it. lots of room for improvement if you like to fiddle.
     
  5. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    I have a QB78 DL I picked up secondhand with a Webley Xocet for £120, been treated to Welsh Willy seals and bolts and a T R Robb tuning kit.

    Make sure you buy a chrono as these are easy to get over the legal limit in .22!!!
     
  6. genemad

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    Cant thank everyone enough. Its all great advice and hopefuly I should be able to get a 79 from my local rfd Penningtons. Thanks again
     
  7. SteveO

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    Yep , what Moley said, These guns have serious FAC potential and could get you in heaps of trouble if you don't take the precaution of having a chrono and testing after modification. They will instantly go FAC when you convert them to HPA so researching methods to keep the power down is a must, that's something we can help with via PM should the need arise! :up:
     
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    DONT USE PENNINGTONS!!!!!!!!!
    He's waaaaaay overpriced, £16 for a 500 tin of daystate pellets!!!!
    Try redbeck in wakey or swillington shooting.....
     
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    Hi Spike, Just had a look at your guns via the link you posted! Very nice and great info!

    One thing that instantly leapt out to me as very useful is the hammer spring tension adjuster, Is this something you build for others who would like one? If so could you let me know a price please?
     
  11. Honest Bob

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    I second that, a crono is a must have, if you want to tune. As StevoR10 says, so easy to go over the limit. Atb, Bob.
     
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    Hi
    thank you for your generous comments
    I have access to a friends lathe and to be honest I am not the fastest at making things, but I am getting better lol
    i have a lot of ideas to get round too ! I am sure others have made similar things
    i am sure there are many on this forum that could make the device on this forum
    I am quite busy with work and other hobbies so only really make parts and tune guns for my own entertainment
    i really will have to get round to sorting my web site as well it is pretty basic in design ! If you can use the word design

    thanks again
    simon
     
  13. genemad

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    Morning gents, cant thank you all enough for your advice and comments. I will deffo b getting a chrono asap, even if wife dont like it. Will b lookin at redbeck and swillington later today. Thanks again and happy shooting.
     
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    i too would recommend the xs79
    nice little rifles with loads of potential for improvement;-)
    if you have difficulty finding one give welsh willy at woodfield gcp a bell,i think he sells them for about £100
    he is only up the road from me so i would gladly collect on your behalf and package it and ship it to you at your expense
    i did this for egg on this forum when he was after an xs79
    if you need welsh willy's number drop me a pm
     
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  15. Honest Bob

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    I may be wrong, but don't think either of those sell what you want, but Wighill park guns at Tadcaster do, here is the link. http://www.wighillparkguns.co.uk/products/products_category.asp?cat=125 If you are going to do a lot of paper punching, I would go for the 79, and do a HPA job on it, Co2 can work out expensive, and does not like cold weather. Atb, Bob.
     
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    Buy this....

    [​IMG]
     
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    I have bought 2 QB78's for a £100.00 each (love them both) and converted one to HPA but limited to 20Bar/850psi. The shot count is low at around 20 per fill with the standard reservoir. The other I am now trying to adapt to take an 88g bottle that will fit to a modified end cap.
    I am also now looking to buy a QB79 too cos the CO2 bug has got me. Collection? I have 2 PCP's (a DS and a AGS), a springer (SMK XS19-18DL) 2 CO2 SMK QB78's) and 2 pistols (Crosman 2250 and a Beretta Storm). Will I also go for some Airsoft......in time maybe........who knows what will grab my fancy next?
    Must say though that just like steve0_R10 Spike's hammer spring tension adjuster has caught my interest too............
     
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    while they're very handy for hpa builds for fine tuning /adjusting the power i've always shyed away from them as external adjusters as they leave you wide open if tested
    if you change to cock on opening it's easy to shim the cocking block to get the spring tension you want (just needs the stock and rear tube plug removing to alter)
    i recently got an adjustable cocking block from a member on ukcaf(made from a hammer stop and a machined m12 bolt) it needs a bit of finessing but it also has good potential,
    ped
     
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    Thanks to every one for the advice. Its good to know theres some sensible folk out there.

    Thanks to my daughter's prom I am now not in a position to buy. Will have to wait till later in year. Thanks Yanks for your stupid ideas.

    Mick.
     

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