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cheap Air Rifle night vision: Red Led Light or Ir Laser+ old camera?

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by weihrauchhunter, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. weihrauchhunter

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    Hi,
    I am new here an start right now with a question :)

    I have a strong Weihrauch Hw35 with about 13 joule.
    I'll buy a Konuspro 3-9x32 scope and want a cheap version of a "night vision"
    I'll use it for rats, martens, mice and rabbits out of a distance of maximum 30 yards (in the night)

    I found 2 different tipes of cheap "night vision" scopes:

    1. Red Led Hunting Lamp kit
    2. Ir Laser+old cam at the front of the scope

    What are the pro and cons of each? Which one is better?
    best regards, weihhrauchhunter
     
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    hello, if your a techy sort of person give the diy n/v a go lots of info on here, for a torch try a cree 501b with red led change lens to aspheric from deal extreme black out reflector and get a torch to scope mount, for ease of use try the figuire of 8 clamp off ebay, terry 101 on here might help with torch. i use 2 red torches one on a AA .22 pcp, 1 on a Brocock pcp. AA for rats the brocock .177 for rabbits.
     
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    Dunno what NV unit you need but 13 Joules = approx. 9.5 ft/lb so I'd want to be confident about your shot placement at the maximum range you're talking about shooting at.

    Also, what kind of marten are you talking about?
     
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    A red torch is cheap and simple to install and can be effective if the quarry isn't spooked by the light. You can do a nv unit using a camcorder (must be one with nightshot) but it goes on the rear of the scope. For the same sort of cost you could build a unit using a cctv camera and there's plenty of information on these in the nightvision section which would be worth reading.
     
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    I'll hunt beech marten, but only out of a distance of 10-15 yards :)

    I am frightened of spooking the animals with the red light, are they good for rats or do they notice the red light?
    Is this a good one? hunting lamp kit

    Are there any good instructions on how to build a cheap and good night vision with lcd monitor, ir laser and a camera that animals can't notice?
    best regards, weihhrauchhunter
     
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    I'm assuming that because you're hunting beech marten you're not in the UK?

    As to home-brew NV setups: there's some pretty damn good guides from the guys on this forum (in this section, stickeyed at the top).
     
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    I am not from the Uk, you're right :)
    English isn't my mother tongue so it's really hard to understand all this electrical stuff the guys are talking about.

    I understood that there must be a camera on the front of the scope and an Ir-Laser that points in the shooting direction, a lcd display that is connectet to the cam and a battery for the display, cam and the laser....
    Are there some cheap and approved components a lot of people are using?

    I hope someone can help me a little bit, I'd be very thankful :amen:^^
    best regards, weihrauchhunter
     
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    Here is a list I suggested to another member a little while ago:
    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/172815-Night-vision?p=1016129#post1016129
    These parts are going to produce a reasonable quality unit.
    The light form an ir laser does not give very even illumination, it is better to use a torch with an infra red led and preferably one which will focus the beam.
    The camera is fixed to the rear of the scope, not the front for this type of unit.
     
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    Thank you :)
    Is an infra red led torch as responsible as the ir-laser for animals?

    Do you think a red led torch is enough for rats and other small animals? Does the red light spook them a lot? Which one would be good for distance about 30 yards?
     
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    There should be no difference in the effect that lasers or leds have on the quarry if the light is the same colour (wavelength) and the same power output.
    A red torch, used carefully, should be effective for rats/rabbits although rats may become alarmed by it quite quickly.
     
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    That will fit.
     

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