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changed my zero from 35-25yds ( 177 hw100ks )

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by mr mcgoo, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. mr mcgoo

    mr mcgoo Engaging Member

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    Thought as I normally hunt between 20-40 yds, to reduce error at my optimum rage I would try a new zero of 25yds and works well for me.
    Bad enough working out wind in this weather. Find it gives me less to think about and never missed a shot other day, gives bit more room for error to.
    5 poor bunnies later I was happy with results


    Anyone else had a play with hunting zeros to achieve better results?

    Chris
     
  2. critter

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    Most people seem to zero at 30yrds tomake it easier to accurately aquire target at known distances, I have one at 25 yrds and one at 30 yrds only problem I find with doing it this way is the first zero point differs greatly. But if your happy with it thats all that matters.
     
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    Works for now but I like to change and try things out.
     
  4. audiguypaul

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    If you stick the data in chairgun pro it will tell you your optimum zero range with the lower and higher range limits for no poa change

    ATB Paul
     
  5. Ganton Gunner

    Ganton Gunner Super Duper Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    i generally zero at 35yard and im within 1inch (1/2inch up 1/2 inch down) 13-45 yard ish
     
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    I achieved 1/4 in group supported at 35yds

    Ill have a go with chairgun see whay I come up with
     
  7. essex sniper

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    Exactly what he said
     
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    25 mtrs for me
     
  9. Meteor62

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    Exactly what he ^^^ agreed to. That's the beauty of .177 zero to 35 and have very minimal (if any) need for aiming off between 15 and 35 yards. Half a mil dot for me at 42 yards and that's my extreme hunting ranges sorted!
     
  10. Chinnymonster81

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    I'll vouch for 35yds. Just got a .177 after using a .22 still struggling to get my head around the fact that I only need half a mildot either side of the vertical as opposed to the .22 kept using my .22 aimpoints yesterday and flying over the top. Still a bit more practice will cure that.
     
  11. metalman

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    It's all in the magnification :D
     
  12. Ozz3y86

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    +1 more for this. Zero at 35yards x10 mag half mil dot either way from 13 to 45
     
  13. Hunter 001

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    It all depend on what size you want your kill zone to be. 35 is fine for one inch kill zone. But for me I prefer half an inch kill zone so zero at 30. It's all depend on what you hunt.
    I mainly hunt pigeon with head shot only for accuracy is essential for me.
    see my hunting channel in my signature below.
     
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    The advantage of setting a zero of 25 yards with a .177 is that, all other distances become holdovers, with no holdunders. I however, have just changed from 25 yards to 35 yards with my .177, which Chairgun indicates a PBR of 13 yards to 40 yards. I will be completing some tests at the range in the new year to determine various holdover and under points with the new zero.
     
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    I have been hunting zeroed at 27yds (.22) based on the common 1" kill zone, but after experimenting with chairgun I've recently reduced it to about 23 yds and lowered the magnification a bit as well so that the hold over marks of my Vortex BDC reticle are now very close to 30, 40, 50 and 60 yds. This reticle also doesn't have any hold under marks. I haven't been hunting with it since though to see if I get on any better with it or checked to see what its will be like shooting up into rafters.
     
  16. craigfishin

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    another fan of the 35 yrd zero here

    spent several hours doing a range card and 35 was perfect , 13-35 is on the hair ,45 half mildot , 55 1 mildot andi doubt ill ever shoot further than that so stopped there

    i was expecting hold under on the closer targets but it was bang on all the way to 38ish yards before any drop off

    this is with my r10 mk2 vc using aa diablo fields .177 4.5s

    i would now feel 99.9% sure of a good kill shot to 55 yrds with no wind , wind is something i experienced a lot of last week and i need to master windage now after some real drifters :eek: , i was hitting my target with a 2 mildot windage allowance at only 35 yards , not shot in these heavy wind conditions before and it was a real eye opener
     
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    Got agree with this too, save a lot of trouble. Atb Paul.
     
  18. DaveF

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    According to chairgun and what I have read depending on magnification used, I use 10, if you zero at 35yard dead on is 13 yards and 35 yards. between 13 and 15 yards you have to use hold under of around half a mil dot and below 13 yards and above 35 yards you have to use holdover. by using a 25 yard zero there is no holdunder to worry about. dead on 15 to 30 yards. above 30 yards add half mildot for each additional 5 yards. I changed from 35 to 25yard zero and found it much easier.
     
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    Think you may need to look again Dave . If 13 and 35 are primary and secondary zeros then between 13 and 15 can't be hold under!
    Regards Stu.
     
  20. David M

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    He's right Pidlar, the pellet is rising through the 13 yard zero point and falls to meet the 35 yard zero point, so between 13 and 35 yards the pellet is above these zero points and a little hold under is required or the pellet will strike high. Beyond 35 yards the pellet continues to drop so progressive amounts of hold over are required as the range increases.....:up:
     

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