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Question Can You Help Identify This Old Air Rifle?

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by ShaggyBlackDog, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. ShaggyBlackDog

    ShaggyBlackDog Newbie

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    This rifle belonged to my grandfather who was born in c.1885. It is stamped "Manufactured in Germany" - can anyone help identify it? Do I need a licence for it? ar 1.jpeg ar 2.jpeg ar 3.jpeg ar 4.jpeg ar 5.jpeg ar 6.jpeg ar 7.jpg ar 8.jpg ar 9.jpg ar 10.jpg ar 11.jpg ar 12.jpg ar 13.jpg
     
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    I don't recognise it, but that barrel release is quite unusual, so am sure someone know what it is.

    It won't be over 12ftlbs, so providing your in England or Wales, you won't need a license.

    Dave
     
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    Hi & welcome to the forum...it's one of the millita's...there were lot's produced by a couple of different manufacturer's...push button locking breech...i've had quite a few & the mechanisms differ from buttons to latches...shoot nice around 8/9ft.lbs...basic trigger...:up:
     
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    Looks like a militia mod v

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    Mod v made in Germany [​IMG]

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  6. GeeTee

    GeeTee The unofficial champion for Diana Air Rifles!!

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    Yep,it's a Militia i have one exactly like that,which my Grandad owned when he were a lad, when we were kids we used to play with it & without fail one of us would trap our fingers in the mechanism
     
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  7. Jay Butts

    Jay Butts Life, it’s so much better than the alternative!

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    Is it a Haenel? Looks great....
     
  8. JoeHeugh

    JoeHeugh Beware the Springer

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    Hiller says these Militias with the button barrel release were made 1902 - 1912 which I find surprising seeing how long it took BSA to come up with a break barrel. Smooth bore apparently. No you don't need a licence, in fact these are a bit of a grey area as being pre war they are more or less treated as antique. It's a nice family heirloom to have and there's no problem hanging it on a wall if that's what you want to do. It would benefit from a light clean but please ask the question first here if that's what you want to do, sand paper and wire wool can ruin it in no time at all.
     
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    BSA used to make a point in their advertising that their fixed barrel system was more accurate than any wobbly break barrel guns at the time. The dating is well pre first war. After the war to end all wars:( all markings referring to being made in Germany on imported airguns were filed out.
     

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