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Can anyone recommend a first single barrel shotgun, ideally with synthetic stock?

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by Big_T, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. Big_T

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    Hiya,

    I'm thinking of getting a single barrel shotgun as my first shotgun. When funds allow I'm pretty keen to get a Hatsan Escort mpa but it's prob wise to start with a cheap gun first so I think a single barrel would be a wise choice, I will mostly be rabbiting so a second quick shot is not such a priority as when shooting flying birds etc. Would prefer one with a synthetic stock if possible. Any ideas?
     
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    Baikal would be a good start if rough shooting ... bit agricultural, but built like tanks and last for ages. V. good deals to be had on secondhand examples.
     
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    hello, you can buy a cheap single shot 12bore, most are full choke,or hush power type i would go for a 2 shot auto with interchangable chokes, if you google info can get to find out cost/make/and relibility unless a forum member can put a brand up they use
     
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    Cheers! The Hatsan fits the bill then, 2 shot semi auto with interchangeable chokes. Might go for a baikal first seeing as its cheaper and see how I get on. Thanks!
     
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    Is full choke a bad thing? Excuse my ignorance, I'm new to this!
     
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    Can anyone recommend a first single barrel shotgun, ideally with synthetic st...

    The tighter the choke the tighter the spread of the pellets. A tighter choke will allow you to shoot a greater distance before your pattern becomes gappy. But the tighter the choke the smaller the pattern and the more accurate your shot needs to be. Much like a nozzle on a hose.

    Most good shots will use full choke all the time unless they know they will only shoot at shorter ranges
    Chokes normally found from open to tight (British)
    Cylinder
    Improved cylinder
    1/4
    1/2
    3/4
    Full
    Extra full
    Cheers Andy
     
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    hello, yes in a nut shell no room for short/mid range shots. the hatsan sounds ideal but check out users guide/reliability/faults on google. buy from a RFD and theres a warranty? good luck oh sometimes autos are prone to jamming so keep action lubed
     
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    Thanks for that! So a full choke will be the second "tightest" available, giving a greater distance of shot than a smaller choke? What rough kind of range will a full choke shoot?
     
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    Yes that's it but it makes it harder at short and medium range as your pattern is smaller. It depends on how much shooting you have done and how fast your target is.

    I don't often use anything other than full or extra full for vermin. You can hit things very hard when close but you get nice clean kills out to good ranges. If you don't use enough choke you can wound at longer ranges.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Thanks mate! I do a fair bit of air rifle shooting so not completely new to shooting generally. I will mostly be shooting rabbit's, I assume that a full choke would be suitable, and a bigger choke would be used for flying pigeons etc....?
     
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    Yes full choke is ideal for rabbits. Go for a slightly larger pellet for rabbits 5's are ideal.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    You could go for a pump. Cheap and like a more useful single shot.
     
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    hello, you can buy a baikel single shot cheap enough, you might get 1 with 1/2 choke 1/4 choke should help shot spread. go 6 shot cartridge for pigeon 5 shot rabbits. if you can look at the 2/3 shot autos and google reliability for brands that you like and fit nice in shoulder. i am sure autos have less recoil. if you get a single barrel first you dont need buy expensive cartridges. my first single 50 odd years ago was a coey 12 bore or such like name cost a fiver, full choke but i had a friend gunsmith take out to 1/2 choke. over decoys i could go to 40yards with a cheap cartridge 6 1/2 shot about £20 a thousand, oh those were the days!!!!!!!!
     
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    Thanks! I like the look of the Hatsan Escort semi auto, but it has very mixed reviews!
     
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    yes but most give 85/100 the latest model has got some refinements and if you keep all the internal moving parts oiled but not over do, you can buy a O/U for same money. my advice to do as you said before buy a cheap single shot, look on gun trader can buy £25 upwards see if you like this type of shooting then look at the hatsan and you might find a good deal s/h £200/250. good luck
     
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    Its snobbyness, nothing wrong with the hatstands, not the most refined gun, but that's what they're being judged on.

    Great first gun.

    Have fun.
     
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    Thanks for all your help guys!:)
     
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    Hi you can get a new hatsan. For under £450 nice gun to
     
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    The hatsans are good guns.
    One thing to bear in mind with a semi auto is if you are walking around it will spit empty shells all over ( it can be a real pain at dusk or in the dark to find the empty)
    With single barrels, double barrels, and pumps you can eject the empty into your hand.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Gd point mate, bit of a bummer but prob worth the hassle!
     

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