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Can anyone please advise me of possible recent problems with my gun?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by t3atl3, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. t3atl3

    t3atl3 Member

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    Hi,

    I have a Stoeger X20S .177. I bought it a while back from a mate who had had it tuned to just under 12ft/lbs (including reducing the recoil) with a new spring and seal kit. A lighter trigger was also fitted. It had been well looked after and was (and still is) in mint condition. It is fitted with a Nikko Stirling Mountmaster 4-12 x 50 scope mounted via Sports Match scope mounts. (Everything seems secure)

    I only use AA diablo field pellets (it was also set-up / tuned using these)

    Since I've had the gun, grouping has always been pretty good and consistent. (I use an artillery hold off a bag) It's always been a pleasure to shoot...
    A couple of weeks ago, my groupings were getting worse. (Suddenly and dramatically) So I bought a napier barrel cleaning kit. I also got some power pellet lube.

    I cleaned the barrel a couple of days ago and treated a tin of pellets with the lube hoping this would improve things. It didn't...

    Tonight I tried some non lubed pellets as well as the lubed ones and there's no difference in the grouping etc. Both lots of pellets also had a few very "random" shots completely missing my target trap. I've never had this happen before.

    The big question is what's caused this sudden change in the gun? I haven't noticed a dramatic change in the recoil (am not sure I would do that said?) I still hold and shoot consitently with the gun. It definitely doesn't seem to have lost any power either... The barrel seems fine, there's no "play" in it broken or closed either. The whole gun looks and feels fine. The visible seals all seem perfect too...

    I've read some people reckoning they're experts at balancing the foward and backward recoil on springers (how, I don't know?) and wonder, if this is the case, if the recoils have gone out of sync to how they were?

    Any suggestions / help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Sorry for the essay-I just wanted to give as much info as possible to save people having to ask 20 questions before they could suggest anything.

    Cheers,

    Pete
     
  2. Bruno27

    Bruno27 Engaging Member

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    Make sure that action and or scope aren't loose. Is your hold consistent?
     
  3. mattyts

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    swap scope and mounts with someone else,tighten stock screws before though
     
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    andy draper Posting Addict

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    Give it a while for the barrel to get relined with lead off the pellets and it will be back to normal.Use pellets that aren't lubed though to reline it,probably about fortyish should do it.
    andy.
     
  5. mick 1986

    mick 1986 Keyboard Hero

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    Is it possible that someone has bumped/knocked over the rifle while you haven't been around it? How many pellets have you shot through the fresh barrel?
     
  6. ratman60

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    hello,with springer rifles the only way once you check all other possabilities eg scope align mounts, bolts holding action to butt etc etc is to hold the rifle in a work mate or some other way of making a solid hold, human error to zero is always there.and this is of course after you have found the best pellet to suite the barrel. well thats my thoughts.
     
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  7. t3atl3

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    Hi,
    Thanks to all of you for getting back and taking the time to help-it's greatly appreciated. I was half expecting a torrent of abuse like you'd see elsewhere on the net....glad to see I've found a decent site :)
    The barrels had about 80 (?) pellets since I cleaned it... The majority of which were lubed though...
    My hold / grip is as consistent as I can make it (even though I normally shoot prone) and I used to group well with this gun until about two weeks ago...
    later today I think I'll remount the scope, check the action and see what happens.... I don't think it'll be so much connected to the cleaned barrel as the problem was there beforehand.
    I'm just relieved that no-one has suggested a more serious problem (yet! Lol)
    Thank you all again!
    Pete
     
  8. thisisdonald

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    As mentioned before - check the stock screws.
    Another thing is it might be something loose in the shroud.. Im not sure how it is constructed, but, could the pellets be clipping or coming into contact with something?
     
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    had you started a new tin of pellets , if so it might pay to check the head size (bottom of tin ) even the same make and caliber come with different head sizes . my apologies if you already know / have checked this atb gary.
     
  10. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    He is right, JSB pellets go from just under the stated diameter to well over! what does it say on the label under the tin?
     
  11. t3atl3

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    No need to apologise... All help is more than welcome! The gun has always used .451's...thanks for the thoughts though
     
  12. t3atl3

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    Or even 4.51's! Lol
     

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