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Camera mounting suggestions????

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by neiled, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. neiled

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    OK I'm now ready to get up and running with my DIY NV set up and it all checks out when connected on the bench so the only thing I now need to sort out is a camera enclosure and a way of mounting it to my Hawke Nite Eye Digital IR 3-12x50 SF scope so how have you done it and what do you suggest?

    The camera that I need to find an enclosure is detailed below.

    http://snurl.com/28e5hp6
     
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    there are many different ways of mounting your camera

    you can use plumbing pipes with tape and glue, use a pipe with 40mm silicone tube

    or you can use a 12" weaver rail from the scope this is not as pretty but more practical and easier to setup

    have a look at rolaids nv setups they are all good just to give you an idea as he uses bullet cams

    hope this helps if not contact me i will help more in depth
     
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    Thanks Niatron.

    I've looked at some of the plumbing pipe options but so far I've only been able to find either 40mm or 45mm internal dimensions when the scope is actually 43mm so they're either too small or too big. I'm starting to get frustrated with it all now!
     
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    you could order i have used this

    330688700173

    you could order 40mm it is flexible or maybe better still order the 45mm and put on a clamp

    this hose is still stiff enough to fit cam into the end so mounting is not so much of a problem
     
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    I've actually got a 100mm x 45mm length of this that I ordered from them but it's quite slack on the scope so will need a clamp or similar to hold it on but my bigger problem is housing the camera.
     
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    the diagonal of camera is about 52mm so have you tried pushing the camera in the tube it should be a tight fit but should go and once in the flexibility / elasticity of the tube would hold it firmly in place (without bracket of course)
     
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    I am afriad not just yet as its not ready yet, buty should be in 2 weeks. There are a few post on the NV forum, just search for "pulsar dsa".
     
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    The digi nite eye has a bulge around the illuminated reticle section which makes it slightly more awkward but can be done fairly easily. If you have a look at the various waste pipes you will find 2 types, solvent fit and push fit which have different sizes and then there are the solvent couplings, adapters etc which have different sizes. The part I used on one of these scopes is marked up as 'FloPlast 43mm WS08' and, as far as I can remember, is a straight solvent fit coupling for joining 2 pipes together. I eased the inside slightly with a file or dremel so that it would fit over the IR housing. To fit the camera lens I used a reducing bush to take it down to the 32mm pipe and then my camera lens fitted inside the 32mm pipe with a single turn of insulating tape - you will probably need something slightly different. The scope has a 38mm thread so it's possible to use camera filter adapters to make the fitting at the scope end, some lenses also have threaded fittings and can be fitted using suitable adapters and macro tubes etc.
    A lot depends on the camera lens, the camera can be mounted by fixing the lens as it is very light and doesn't need a rigid fixing. I have tried using a piece of thin wall aluminium tube 1" in diameter which is fixed to the scope tube using a figure 8 clamp with another figure 8 clamp holding the camera lens. These fig 8 clamps have short sections of weaver rail on them which you can use for mounting the monitor or a torch and cables can be run inside the tube to keep it neat and tidy.
     
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    Here is my set up from left to right
    A universal 40mm to32 mm compression waste fitting with the 32 mm end cut off
    Next is a40mm solvent to 40 mm push fit coupling and the last piece is my camera 600 tvl digital ccdcamera model cc613hd the first part will fit most scopes as it tightens up with the nut holding very ridged it also all pulls a part if needed and as you will be using it at night no need to camo it :)
     

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    If you use the Ali tube method I find it better to fix a small bit of weaver rail to the tube, and use a weaver scope mount fitted upside down to the scope of each gun. Allowing the nv unit to be fitted to any of your guns in seconds.
    If you use a bullet camera a second weaver mount can be used on the back of the Ali tube instead of the bolt to hold the camera.
    [​IMG]
    Cheers Andy
     
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    I found a couple of pictures of the original mock-up I did for this with a long tube but it does show the general layout:
    DSCN0961.jpg DSCN0962.jpg
     
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    If you changed the figure 8 mounts for weaver scope mounts and a bit of weaver rail fitted to the tube it would mean you could drop it on to the gun with no tools, just the nut on the weaver mount to tighten by hand.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    That would work quite well, the only difficulty is getting the rails aligned properly but can be done with a bit of care. Being able to remove it from the rifle easily would be a bonus for most people. I haven't made a fully working version of this and only put it together to see how a bullet camera could be fitted behind a scope without using tubes etc, the idea being that the camera would be firmly held in place directly in line with the scope. If the scope tube and camera body (or lens) aren't the same diameter you would need to find a method of fixing the smaller diameter item (usually the camera), I would normally make up a set of split bushes but most people won't have access to a lathe although they could be made from a section of plastic pipe or similar.
    I also made a bracket using a long length of picatinny rail but I found that to be quite heavy and good quality mounts were needed to keep the parts aligned. It's the method used by Roland for some of his builds but I didn't like it as much as other methods although some people use it successfully.
    There have been plenty of clever ideas for using the strangest parts for mounting cameras and it's worth thinking about the bits you have available or looking around at plumbing or electrical fittings and all the other bits in B&Q or similar stores, there's bound to be a method that suits every skill level.
     
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    With the dsa mount from pulsar, for my watec would I need a gen 1 or a gen 2? Both are the same price???
     
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    Can't help with that I'm afraid. It will depend on which lens you are going to use as that will have to be made to fit the rear of the dsa.
     
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    I ordered the Gen2, fits the scope and watec well.
     
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    Brilliant thankyou
     
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    Does anyone know where i can buy a box like the one nite site use to mount their camera in ( or even better like the aftermarket upgrade ones off ebay ) as i would like to mount my camera into one as they fit into the dsa really nicely ?. Atb gary.
     

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