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Buzzard

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by metalman, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. metalman

    metalman Very Active

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    Out for a mooch last evening, waiting in a stubble field for bunnies to appear. A Buzzard in a tree above me flew across and landed in a ploughed field next door. A few minutes later a rabbit came out of the hedge and got within ten feet of the Buzzard before the bird flew away. Not seen that before. Mixie making an appearance now, but still a lot of clean bunnies about despite a good bashing from the shottie boys
     
  2. David M

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    He must have recently eaten..! I think seeing all the other wildlife whilst out with the gun is all part of the day, I've seen loads of interesting stuff that would be hard to believe in passing conversation. Since using NV this year, owls, badgers and mice are everywhere it seems, hardly a session goes by without something appearing.

    Still no myxi on any I've had this year... unlike like last year...:up:
     
  3. DR2501

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    I love watching the buzzards on my permission. One of them is absolutely massive and in fact so big that the stables owner worries that his chihuahua will end up as lunch! Seriously he's paranoid about it lol.
     
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    Beautiful
     
  6. Big Andy

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    Eight of them over my paddocks today, problem is I have 17 free ranging chickens..they worry me !!
     
  7. Kyska

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    They'll not bother with live animals, enjoy them, big silly carrion birds.
     
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    Not correct. I shot a pigeon a few weeks back off a fence post. It wasn't killed instantly and managed to take off and fly about 20m before crash landing and a buzzard was on it within a second. whist it was flapping about.

    I've seen a buzzard take a young rabbit within meters of myself whilst sat in a vehicle.

    Personally I don't like them, but they're not on the list!
     
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    I have been watching a family of 4 every morning for the last few weeks while i sit and drink my morning coffee... great to watch them using the thermals.

    seems to be more and more of them these days.
     
  10. r10hunter

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    40 of our young pheasants this year would tend to agree with you if the buzzards had not eaten them:)[​IMG]
    Cheers Andy
     
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    I had to break cover and run up a hill to where I had left a small stash of my rabbits because I saw a Buzzard circling above :p
     
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    Generally then, I'm no expert, but they aren't live hunters, opportunists, maybe.
     
  13. harry brown

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    Yes they are live hunters! Just google Buzzard behaviour. They'll take carrion but prefer live prey.

    So you are a farmer.. :confused:
     
  14. engraver

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    Bloody keepers nightmare now, the buzzard numbers all over the country seem to have boomed to a level Ive never seen.

    I haven't been out all year without seeing at least one or two, there are a pair on my main permission that have bred 3 young and the pair and young were souring on the breeze around my pigeon pattern a few days ago so I didn't shoot much after they appeared, then the family of kestrels turned up and found it entertaining to hover over my pattern making funny calls, its getting to the point where somedays Ive seing more birds of prey than pigeons sometimes.

    I wont be surprised if in a few years something will have to be done in some areas, then we have the red kites spreading from harewood estate I saw a pair just 5 miles from me last Wednesday, they certainly wont go down well with the grouse moor keepers.
     
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    The Red Kite is the logo of the county I live in and I think they're magnificent and I'm so glad to see how well good Conservation/Anti-Poisoning laws have brought their numbers back up from an endangered low at one time years ago. Then again, I happen to think that all Birds of Prey as well as most other birds are magnificent, and thank heavens there are strict laws to protect them :). They are entitled to be there and they have to eat/survive too ;). It would be a very sad countryside/world without birds, but hey, that's just my personal opinion........Just sayin :)

    Andy :)
     
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    I agree Andy 100% I love birds of prey always have Ive had an injured sparrow hawk and a barn owl as a lad a nursed and re released, and I remember a time when if you saw a buzzard it was a rarity.

    I also love red kites, and go up to harewood often to see them, with my kids its been a big thing on harewood estate.

    However I grew up with a dad who was a gamekeeper and have witnessed him take weeks to build new pens creat light and a perfect habitat for the new poults arriving, to then get to the pen days after to carnage dead poults everywhere.

    He would have been the first to tell you how much he admired birds of prey and how they deserve to be here more than the pheasants, he was a conservationist as well as a game keeper with a love for all life in the countryside.

    But bare in mind he was on a minimal wage, and worked seven days a week all year around even Christmas morning.

    So all Im saying with the total imbalance the amount of birds of prey around are giving the keepers a hard living and maybe loss of a few nights sleep, its not an easy living its a way of life, and Ive lived it with him.

    But Im not for one moment justifying the poisoning of such majestic birds for the sake of some fat businessmen to shoot a good day of pheasants, nothing could be further from my mind, but things can get out of control when predators get too abundant in any form of wildlife, some balance has to be found before a knock on effect on other species ie the grey partridge for instance.

    The birds are just doing whats natural to them to kill young pheasants and especially partridge as they are easy pickings, but as I say its getting a keepers nightmare, only because Ive seen pens full of dead pheasants due to just a few sparrow hawks, so a couple of kites on your patch and hungry buzzards is just making the keepers job even harder.

    Although nowdays with the landscape absolutely covered in pheasants Im sure they will be enough to go around even for the fat city bankers for their day in tweed.:D
     
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    What is that the buzzard is on Andy? cant make it out is it a poult?
     
  18. r10hunter

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    It's a half grown rabbit.

    It's now possible to get a license to kill buzzards to stop them taking game birds.
    But most people us included would rather see the buzzards left alone.

    If you lose between 40 and 60 poults a year and buy an extra 60 pheasant poults knowing the buzzards will take that amount it costs under £300 a year.
    1 person pays more than that for 1 days shooting so controlling buzzards is not even a consideration to most people.

    Cheers Andy
     
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    The abundance of buzzard or kite in some areas is a result of simple food chain dynamics. Primary predators such as raptors need a certain density of prey in their habitat in order to support their population, the more prey - the more predators, less prey - less predators etc etc nature finds the balance.. We then manipulate it to our needs... Arguably there should be more raptors out there given what we are doing to the food chain.

    Buzzards are simply breeding to the level of food available, less food the chicks starve. We are introducing food, be is in the form of poults in some areas such as moorland or waste human food at refuse tips and litter... Open land fill attracts enormous numbers of kites.

    Accepting the gamekeepers livelihood is involved here, but they are messing with population dynamics at one end... Well then expect the chain to react.
     
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    A few years back driving along a lane in Devon and ahead of us a buzzard swooped and got his talons into a full grown rabbit. The buzzard hopped along the road on one leg while the rabbit struggled and then finally both vanished off the side of the road thro' a gap in the hedgerow.This was one big bunny and I hope the buzzard succeeded but it was a real struggle for him.
    Dag
     

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