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Advice Buying First Pcp

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by BulletToothTony, Sep 18, 2021.

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  1. BulletToothTony

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    Good day Sirs

    Firstly I would like to say a big thank you for all the advice I have already read through the years on this forum whilst starting my journey with Air Rifles.

    I will be purchasing my first PCP from a dealership that provides a lifetime warranty and service which puts my mind at ease.

    Firstly I was going to purchase a package deal for around £500-£600 like the Gamo Phox but I know further down the line I would sell it to buy something better. I’ve decided to save some more and buying something permanently.

    This is where I’m at the moment but it’s difficult to decide cause I don’t want to pay for something and have repeated issues cause my attitude changes and I don’t like to be mucked around having to drive back and forth for the air rifle to be fixed constantly.

    I had my heart set on the HW110 regardless of the “plastic” it’s just deadly accurate and beautiful.

    But with the dreaded power issues I’ve heard and me having a slight OCD it would honestly make me somewhat bitter.

    I thought OK let’s review the HW100 but apparently the same power issue is at bay I mean honestly at this point I feel like giving Weihrauch a bell and having a good chat with them.

    Air Arms s410 has great results and I can’t seem to find power issues with it or much problems but I would prefer the HW110

    Bsa Scorpion se is a accurate work horse and is highly recommended but I don’t feel to attracted to it and no I don’t want the BSA Ultra cause I don’t want to have my air cylinder strapped to my back when I’m out hunting. The Ultra’s shot count is just to low.

    Air Arms s410 sounds like the less problematic air rifle with my research but as stated before I could just by the bloody HW110 new with lifetime free service guarantee and spend every three to four months shouting at the dealership and getting annoyed.

    This group has years of great knowledge under its belt and I know my questions are the norm but please could you help a newbie and save me from future frustrations and help me choose an air rifle.

    I can spend £1200 on a rifle package combo which would include HW100, HW110 or s410.

    I would still have to buy a 7ltr air cylinder for £230.

    If you have read this all I do honestly appreciate your help and have a super day.

    Much appreciated
     
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    Being honest I would probably buy a s/h rifle from a known forum member. So many new rifles have problems I don’t think I would buy new at the moment.
    The manufacturer just don’t seem to give good customer service.
    If it’s the shop I’m thinking tho they have given me very good service over the years.


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  3. George X

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    Have a look at the used ads on here, seen a Daystate for sale, a bottle gun loads of shots and very accurate for £750.
     
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    I appreciate the advice but I would only purchase new cause I get lifetime free services and guarantee.

    If I purchase second hand it becomes my baby to service.

    Thank you
     
  5. PBaz Barrett

    PBaz Barrett 'I love slinging lead me'..

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    This is the order I would put the guns you are interested in:
    Hw100
    S410
    HW110

    TBH all good rifle's, and which one, just depends on how it suit's you. You should shoulder and test each one before deciding. :up:
     
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    New has me sold because of the lifetime free service that’s why I would only purchase new, thanks for the reply
     
  7. PBaz Barrett

    PBaz Barrett 'I love slinging lead me'..

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    You must know a good RFD to offer a lifetime warranty and servicing on a new rifle. I dont think I have purchased a new rifle before offering this from anywhere. Is it the RFD offering this or the manufacturer mate?
     
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    So I shouldn’t be concerned with Weihrauch power issue as the dealership will sort it out? Cause I honestly like the Weihrauch make just put off with the issues I’ve read about them.
     
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    I would go for the HW100 - brilliant rifle in all reviews/owners I've spoken to.
    I didn't know it had the power issues that come with the HW110 to be honest - never heard that.
    Basically nothing in life that is "mechanical" is ever perfect.
    Search up the most reliable car.
    Then search "problems" with that said car.
    You will find people who had issues with it.

    If you can afford it get a new HW100 from that reputable dealer with the warranty - and that is about as safe as you can get.
     
  10. BulletToothTony

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    Yes it’s the RFD that will offer the lifetime free service parts and labour included. I don’t know if I’m allowed to mention the shops names but there are two and that’s why I’m purchasing new
     
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  11. PBaz Barrett

    PBaz Barrett 'I love slinging lead me'..

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    Agreed or a HW100 or S410 :thumb:.. As a rule, both great rifles and very reliable as a rule.. :up:

    But there are some great deals here on 2nd hand rifles at AGF. And you could save a 1/3rd off the price from new.
     
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    The Airgun Centre, not necessarily an RFD.
     
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    PBaz Barrett 'I love slinging lead me'..

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    Is the Airgun Centre not a RFD?
     
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    Thank you for the advice that is about the safe as I could get. Sound right cheers
     
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    Consider an AAS510 also. I had a 410 carbine in. 22, brother in law has a 510.

    I love his, and was just a bit more refined than the 410.

    Never had a HW100 but highly rated and revered by most owners as far as I've read.

    Best rifle I ever had though was Daystate Air Ranger in 0.177 so consistent and fitted me perfectly physically.

    Go to a local RFD to try them all physically, it is no good buying online if it's not going to fit you
     
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    I don't know and couldn't be bothered to Google it
     
  17. PBaz Barrett

    PBaz Barrett 'I love slinging lead me'..

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    :confused: oh ok.. I thinks if Tony purchases any rifle new that has a lifetime warranty, it will most certainly be from a RFD.
     
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    My two new rifle choices would be an S510 or a Huntsman Revere.
    Couldn't fault an HW100 though but would not entertain an HW110 as they are a much cheaper construction.
     
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    Sorry its not a RFD my mistake.

    Ronnie Sunshine’s offer the lifetime services on any new air rifle that you your purchase and so do the Air Gun Centre. But I’m going to Ronnies as it’s just a 20 min drive from me.

    I could then shoulder the air rifle and make my choices.

    Thanks again for your advice much appreciated
     
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    As you're intending to buy new, and have that lifetime warranty, I'd suggest handling all 3.
    Your intended use may mean that one suits you better than the others
     
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    Ah ok, yes I have had stuff off him before. I thought he was an RFD TBH.
     
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