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buying abroad

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Westphalian, Jun 30, 2015.

  1. Westphalian

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    off to US on hols. there is a piece of NV kit that is 60% cheaper over there and scottcountry has sold out of it anyway.
    looking at the uk customs web page it would seem i would have to declare it and pay 2.5% duty...no probs there.
    anyone done this? any problems i am not seeing?
     
  2. terry1001

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    The US authorities are a bit funny regarding nv kit and some of it needs an export licence so it's worth checking on that, if it's something sold mainly on the civilian market you should be all right. I'd suggest you recheck the HMRC information as there might be VAT chargeable as well, it might only be on the duty. There is a threshold value for not needing to pay any import taxes but I think this is quite low.
    If you can save as much as 60% then it sounds like a bargain, even more so if it has a worldwide warranty from the makers.
     
  3. Westphalian

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    cheers. the customs web site says you MAY have to pay import VAT. not very helpful. i have emailed them to explain but no answer and rang them but was in a massive queue so eventually hung up. many years ago i remember ordering some "cheap" kit by mail order but was stung by some tax or other when it arrived in uk. can't remember the details but i remember being put off ordering stuff from US again.
    the kit i want to buy is the ATN X Sight HD day and night scope
     
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    If you have stuff sent by post/carrier etc you get caught for handling charges as well and VAT on top of everything, this can add up to a lot of money. Bringing it in yourself should get round most of the problems and it will probably be down to the customs person you end up talking to - you might get lucky and not have to pay anything. I see now that ebay handle these charges for you if you buy from countries outside the EU.
    Which version are you thinking about, I have the 3-12 which is plenty for anything on an air rifle or rimfire. It does have the option to zoom further with the electronics if you want a bit more and I have found that a doubler can be fitted as well although I've not yet had a chance to really test it.
     
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    So you will be bringing it back with you in your luggage.

    Declaring it at UK Customs is simple. There won't be any import problems.
    Bring your purchase receipt to show them.

    It is normal for them to them charge you 20% VAT.
    Then you are on your way.
    (It isn't unheard of for them just to look at it, show a little interest, and send you on your way with no charge).

    Rod
     
  6. Westphalian

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    Cheers
    I only use x10 on my scopes so will get the 3-12 esp as it looks less bulky and will be lighter with the same functionality. US web sales do seem to have export restrictions on them so it looks like i will be buying in person when over there.
    how did you get yours? scottcountry?
     
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  7. terry1001

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    Yes, I bought mine from Scott Country after seeing them at the Shooting Show, the new 3-12 version wasn't available until a bit later in the year. I did an initial (part 1) review on mine but haven't yet got round to doing part 2 but I hope to do that very soon. The 3-12 is the lighter one and now it is fitted with a focussing front lens it is very good and the firmware updates have sorted most if not all of the problems that people found originally, the main one being that the reticle stays centred oin the field of view all the time. I'm not sure how the night performance compares to a Photon but the daytime capability is fine. As the scope has AO focussing I fitted a coaster to it which makes it easier to use in the dark, the controls are fairly easy to use although if you're wearing thick gloves you might fumble a bit.
    The Americans have restrictions on 'Arms Sales' and even buying a bit of weaver rail from China can bring up 'restricted item' warnings. The X Sight only has a weaver rail fitting so you will probably need some dovetail to weaver adapters, try and get low profile ones if you can as they lift it up even higher. You will also need a USB power bank/emergency phone charger to run it to save on batteries.
     
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    Aware of UK purchasers of Scopes from USA Mail and Holiday purchases - Warrenty is Via USA Seller - Return carriage is Expensive and often get done VAT Charges on return of Scope -

    And took ages for Work and return

    No UK Dealer would Touch it - Warrenty is covered by Distributer Not Manufacture - On overseas products

    BOB/R
     
  9. Westphalian

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    cheers clubfoot. i think that makes my mind up.
     
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    :D....Clubshot...:D
     
  11. Westphalian

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    lol, sorry mate, that's the autocorrector.
     
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    What about posting it back to yourself as a birthday present? Or returned as personal items? Can't you avoid import tax that way? Once in the UK and at the royal mail centre you can kick up a fuss and not pay their handling fees (being polite is more likely to work)
    I might be completely wrong but may be worth looking into
     
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    My experience of picking up stuff like this from the sorting office is not good, they just quote 'the rules' and that's it - I was charged VAT and they wouldn't even provide a VAT invoice.
     
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    don't declare nothing , its a scope nv nothing else , it isn't illegal ... or post it to yourself there and write gift on it . I certainly wouldn't declare it or they will charge :confused:
     
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    The issue is not whether or not the item is legal to possess - it is - but trying to evade customs duty is a serious offence so if you try and smuggle it through you could well end up in a whole lot of trouble such as confiscation and/or fines. They might want to check for other smuggled goods which could involve bending over a table while the customs officer puts on rubber gloves - not my idea of fun, others may enjoy it.
    If you were to buy a used one in USA and have the invoice showing it as used at a lower price and it showed some signs of use such as marks on the mounting screws, a used set of batteries in it etc you might have a better chance of not being charged anything.
     
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    That is downright daft advice. If customs decide to do a tug and you have come through "nothing to declare" they will certainly charge, they may also decide to confiscate and destroy in which case the OP has lost the purchase price as well.
     
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    confiscate ??? why would they it is not a banned item that's stupid to say that ..

    I used to have a mate that went to the states every year he took a load of carboot fishing rods , say 10 soon as he got there he snapped them up in nearest bin and brought back 10 roach poles they never said a thing ....
     
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    It may be legal but if you don't declare it and they tug you for a check and find it you can be charged duty as a minimum, they can also confiscate or fine you.
    Sensible? Declare it. Stupid? Your advice.
     
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    never ever done it mate , worst they can do is fine you .... that's the bottom of it .... try it on you worry far to much confiscate only if you don't pay the tax or they cant do it ,its illegal for them to confiscate its not a prohibited item , say you forgot or throw the box say you've took it with you ... easy with common sense approach :-}
     
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  20. Westphalian

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    you have to declare if it costs more than £390 (which it does). i look shifty when i have an empty case never mind something that should be declared. honesty is the best policy esp if you have a lot to lose
     

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