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Advice Buying A New Weihrauch? A Word Of Caution!

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Chris_Brads, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. Chris_Brads

    Chris_Brads Impressive Member

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    I went to pick up a new HW99s (.22) today and gave it a 'good coat of looking at' before handing the cash over.

    The first thing that caught my eye was a chewed up fore-end screw. It looked as though it had been tightened with a driver that was too small. The trigger then drew my attention, there were three prominent scratches on one side of it. Finally, running my fingers over the action, my thumb dragged across a large burr on the middle scope arrester hole.

    I pointed these to the salesman and told him I wasn't prepared to buy that particular gun. He ordered a new one from Hull and it should arrive next week.

    The last gun I bought was a HW100 about 12 months ago. I did look at it in the shop, but I wasn't as thorough. When I got it home and looked over it in good light, the walnut stock was criss-crossed in hundreds of little scratches. I kept the gun but wasn't a happy chap.

    It does make you wonder what the internals are like if the bits on show are of a poor fit and finish. My advice would be to thoroughly check and check again in good light before you walk out of the shop with your new gun. Weihrauch used to be the benchmark by which others were judged, not any more IMO! (but I still love 'em:()

    Caveat Emptor
     
  2. PumpnGun

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    Sadly that seems to be more frequent these days and not just Weihrauch :shrug:

    Ray
     
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    I tell you what, and if I’m right this is very naughty. A burr in the arrester hole and mangled screws - this doesn’t sound like a new gun.....
     
  4. Chris_Brads

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    The thought did cross my mind and I did raise the issue but they insisted it was new. I've had dealings with them before and I believe they are a good bunch.
     
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    shauny Top Poster

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    as mentioned,sounds like they have tried to pass on a secondhand gun.
     
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    It may have been a new gun as in not owned by anyone the shop may have attached a scope to the rail as a display item. Was it brought out of the stock room in a new box in front of you. ?
     
  7. Chris_Brads

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    It was brought out in a new box, but wasn't in the plastic wrap. After a phone call to the 'Boss' at the other store it transpired that this gun had already been refused by another customer - I was surprised that they admitted to this as it doesn't paint them in a good light!
     
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  8. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    I bought an HW100 a couple of years ago, in the dull light of the shop it looked good, in the bright light of day outside it looked like it had been hand (?) carved by James Howlett (aka Logan, aka Wolverine). I phoned up HC and asked if they could send a stock to the shop, no joy, took the gun back to the shop, they had to send it back to HC to get the stock replaced!

    2 weeks it bleeding took. Sorry when spending top money for a gun I expect the finish to be good. It worked ok, unlike our last two 95s, but I am not going to recommend Weihrauch, they are getting to the level of BSA as far as quality goes.
     
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    Thats what I like to see on brand new ones ,the box must not be opened & the plastic wrap with red rubber band in place.

    I've had a so called new one but I could tell the box had been opened, i didn't mind too much on this one as it was a good price.On closer inspection at home it was in as new condition but it was a "F" type non HC import which the dealer doesn't do.:confused:
     
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    We put German engineered products on a pedestal in this country and I don't think they deserve it. For example, look at the reliability rankings of German cars: poor to mediocre at best!
     
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    So far I’ve been fortunate. All mine have come in as a special order from Weihrauch/BSA etc. When I bought my 95 they had one on display. After watching someone dry firing another stock gun I asked for a fresh one as I have no idea what the display 95 had gone through at that point.
     
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    it does sound like a second hand gun in a new box i think he`s trying to pass on, the screws arent done by a person with a normal screwdriver, they are done up with a machine / electric driver, some burrs seem to be normal, hence why people get a rifle and deburr certain parts...my 97 was put together well but there were still a few small burrs in the action that i had sorted out, i hope you just asked for a different rifle instead of being fobbed off with a lemon...only place i could think of that would have messed with the screws are hull cartridge or the gunshop
     
  13. Chris_Brads

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    New rifle coming next week, it will be given a 'once over' like you've never seen before!
     
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    Our local RFD would have sent this back to the supplier for a replacement, it would not have been offered to a customer again as a new rifle bit naughty that. :down:
     
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    Good luck mate, you’ll love it (I hope)
     
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    Don't forget to ask for a discount, or free tin of pellets, as you have been messed about and an unnecessary return trip back for a gun you should have had first visit. :thumb:
     
  17. Chris_Brads

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    It's always worth a try isn't it?
     
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    Good on you for standing your ground.
    Hope the next one is in top class condition.
    If you need a magnifying glass, send me a pm ill put it in the post to you.
    There is no point, buying something that is covered in scratches. Or hasnt been finished properly.
     
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    Good point you have fetch up Chris:up:, I'm hoping to pick my new gun up next Thursday/Friday, I will now check it over with a fine tooth comb.
     
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    You have to remember that all our Weihrauch guns are third hand when we get them, they are unboxed and tested and stamped by Hull Cartridge so I is possible the a lot of these faults are caused by them, I made my mind up a long time ago that I would buy my next (soon) Weihrauch from mainland europe.
     

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