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Advice Bulletproof quarry?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Eurosaber, May 2, 2012.

  1. Eurosaber

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    Hi all,
    I've recently had 2 strange shots on a pigeon and a rabbit and both have got away Scott free!
    the pigeon was around 20 yards away, 8yards high, and I shot it in the chest. I saw the pellet bounce off with a thud and mr pigeon flew off unscathed.
    Then again I shot a rabbit at around 30 yards, saw the pellet hit him under the eye and bounce off. A really loud thud but bugs ran off quite sharpish.
    this is with my r10 which is regulated but I haven't chronod it yet. It seems on full power..
    im using domed pellets and my zero is spot on.
    Im just concerned whether these are flukes or one offs etc and I like to kill cleanly!
    Any advice? Can this happen?
     
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    were you low on air? I know it's regulated so shouldn't matter. But also get it chrono'd jsut in case. See if there is anything wrong with it after you take a string of shots.
     
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    i hunt with a r10 .177 and my mate joe with a r10 .22 and neither of us has had that problem. get it chronod mate
     
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    This alone implies that your gun isn't firing at full power. Even if the pellet didn't penetrate, there should've been enough energy liberated on impact to kill that rabbit, or at the very least, stun it.
     
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    Was charged around 190. Think my tanks running out, I shall try my combro. But surely anything over 9ft/lbs at 20 yards would take mr pigeon?
    Its .22
     
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    wont work with a combro would it? being pcp the puff of air would give false readings? Or is that only that does that.
     
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    I've never heard of that before?
     
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    Well , pigeons are funny. If it has a crop full of seeds and stones, you could end up with what happened. It's the rabbit that tells the story, though; it only needs 3 to 3.5 ft lbs in a blow to the head to kill one.
     
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    may only be with c02 guns like the ratty that give false readings then.
     
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    Sounds like its struggling to put out even half of the legal 12ft/lbs. If it had just been the case of the pigeon then it could well of been a fluke as it has happened to me (albeit a magpie) on several occassions due to the angle of the shot and where it hit. The fact that you can 'see' the pellet hit the rabbit says your deffo down on power BIG time. You may of had more luck if you would of thrown rocks at it...:p...(I AM NOT CONDONING THIS IN ANYWAY). Get it chroned is about all you can do for now...
     
  11. Eurosaber

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    Hope so! I will chrono and check. But it does seem high. Maybe I messed up the shot on the rabbit and got a body shot. I hope not :( I'm sure I saw it hit the blighters face!
     
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    i had a very similar experience i was shooting rats with my AA 410 177 fully charged with diablo field pellets from approx 30 meters the shots hit but the rats squealed and ran away i thought they would die instantly
     
  13. Eurosaber

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    Haha kev don't get me started on rats!
    toytowns has armoured rats at his farm... One took 6 shots and still ran off!! All hits! It was flipping and squeezing and he still buggered off!?
     
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    I am not convinced about this either way.

    The pigeon I would have put down to you hitting it in the crop and the pellet bouncing off of an acorn or something similar. But its the rabbit which makes no sense...

    Just to throw some figures around... Lets say your gun is zeroed for 20 yards and is only putting out 4 FPE! By the time it reached the target at 30 yards it would still be carrying 3.1 FPE which is enough to kill a rabbit if you hit it in the sweet spot. Problem I have is that you would have had 15 inches of drop at 30 yards and would expect you to have not even hit it if the power was that low.

    The only conclusion I can come to is that maybe you hit him in the jaw? It could have been a bit of bone which you saw comming off him and not the pellet.

    Keep us posted on the results of your chrono, my money is on the fact that it is not underpowered enough to cause these issues and if it were then its likley you would not have hit the target at 30 yards and the pallet would have taken 48 hours to get there!
     
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    Chronoed Today - Averaging 11.30 ...
     
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    11.3 is good . so was just abit of bad luck then mate........make sure your zerod in properly
     
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    ...also, you're certain about your yardage, yes?
     
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    Yep. I am starting to think i may have hit the rabbit in the side. Was a big thump sound like hitting a piece of leather.
     
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    Yeah I find the chest area gives the biggest thud.

     
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    It was probably a bit of coughed-up lung you saw.
     

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