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Budget multi-shot PCPs (Gamo Coyote and "Walther" RM8) now the dust has settled, what do we think?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by cloverleaf, Jun 11, 2015.

  1. keithy

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    The cheaper PCP rifles now shoot just as good as the £700+ guns. I zeroed a hatsan for a guy this week couldn't fault it for accuracy.
     
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    i dont mean to put you down bud but i can do better than that with my .22 hw97
     
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    I've owned a Coyote and was very impressed with the accuracy of it. Only downsides for me was it had a very noticeable sweet spot so I felt like I was lacking shot count and it felt like it was lacking in refinement/build quality.
     
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    TrickyDicky Life in the slow lane

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    The mechanism is definitely a bit clunky, but that can be improved, along with the trigger by fitting a different length screw and polishing the sears, I replaced the plastic hammer carrier with a delrin one, and with a Lane regulator and an SSG mod mine is now doing around 120-130 shots from a 200 to 100bar fill.
     
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    I do not own these but looking at a few before I purchased my R10 I did have a shoot with the RM8 and the Phox. The Phox seemed to have an action from a BSA PCP, but not a BSA Barrel. I hear that Gamo barrels are ok but its not a BSA barrel. The RM8 has a Walther barrel but not a proven action........ So I found these guns both 50/50. That said though the RM8 was very accurate with 1/2" groups and the Phox not far behind. For the money I think these are fine, but we're all magpies in this sport and yearn for something better mostly. So for me, I steered away from the sub £500 guns knowing if I bought one I would only upgrade it.
     
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  6. lordclaverton

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    Had my coyote over a year, purchased from portugal for less than £300 delivered. Been 100% reliable . Was lucky enough to win a Huma reg, so that's now fitted too along with one of Blades barrel shrouds. The small trigger mod with the longer screw works a treat.

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    My lad, my daughter & me have put near on 500 pellets through the Phox now in 3 weeks & it’s been utterly faultless, really enjoy shooting it (& I have a Tx200hc) But one thing I have noticed is that the sights need zeroing near on every week? Anyone else have this problem? I’m about to go grab it from the car & check if it’s loose, I don’t believe it is though.
     
  8. mikeyhall1

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    With near zero recoil I would have through that shooting shouldn't knock the scope out of zero, even my springers hardly knock my scopes out. Maybe its the scope? Are you using the one that comes with it? Based on a BSA standard scope I believe.

    If it is a dodgy scope, grab yourself a Hawke Vantage Plus 3-9x40AO or 3-9x50AO, £55 from Countryways, Great scope for the money.
     
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    It’s the packaged scope that came with the phox, just checked it & it wasn’t really tight, so I nipped it up a bit on all corners, hopefully that was it.
     
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    I have no experience of the Gamo offerings, but I did once own an Air Magnum – the gun that the Walther RM8 is based on.

    I could never get mine to group satisfactorily. The best it could manage were 1” groups at 25 yards and I've seen similar obtained by online & Youtube reviewers. Personally, I don't think that's acceptable – I can easily get sub half inch groups (rested) with my springers at 25 yards so any PCP should be one-holing at that distance.

    The action was also very agricultural. I certainly wouldn't want a PCP based on that.
     
  11. TrickyDicky

    TrickyDicky Life in the slow lane

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    The barrel is critical, if its bad you will never get decent grouping, and it can be a bit of a lottery on the so called lower (budget) priced PCPs, mind you the barrel lottery can be just as much of a gamble on the higher priced PCPs, but its less likely, but after all they are all mass produced.

    As for build quality, i was actually surprised the Coyote is very similar to the R10 and most of the other BSAs, the only refinements that the R10 Ultra, and the like have over the Coyote is a different trigger mechanism, yet the both still retain the cocking pin through the hammer, so the cocking sears are essentially the same, but the rest of the trigger assembly is quite different, but with some small adjustments can be made to feel a lot like the R10.
    The only other differences are the hammer carrier and the bolt sleeve, one piece instead of two, for the price difference i was surprised.
     
  12. Bigjimknickers

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    Oh don’t get me wrong, when it’s zeroed it’s spot on! I’ve got some really neat little groups & we’ve only had it 3 weeks, so we are still learning, as for the phox barrel it has cold forged stamped on it so I imagine it’s a bsa one?

    overall I’m loving the phox, I just don’t want to zero it every time we go out with it!
     

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