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Budget multi-shot PCPs (Gamo Coyote and "Walther" RM8) now the dust has settled, what do we think?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by cloverleaf, Jun 11, 2015.

  1. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Some months ago there was much talk on the forum of a pair of then-new budget multi-shot PCPs - namely the Gamo Coyote and "Walther" (Umarex) RM8.

    I've aired my own opinions on these rifles so won't bother repeating myself.. however I am curious to hear from those who own / have owned either of these two guns, since (given the hype upon their release) you'd have been forgiven for confusing their arrival with the second coming of the messiah..

    So, do you own one of the above?
    Have you owned one?
    Are / were you pleased with it?
    Do you think it is/was good value?
    How do you think it compares with more expensive gear?

    Ultimately, did they live up to the hype?
     
  2. Regular_shot

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    Doesn't quite help your question, but I went with the intention of getting a Coyote from a shop (localish to yourself), but came back with an HW100T instead.
     
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    I've wondered since their release, if it would be better to opt for a more refined rifle secondhand, like an S410 rather than buying a feature-packed rifle brand new,like the ones you listed.
     
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    I should have said, the HW100T was second hand! I had the same feelings on this, and went with that. ;-)
     
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    hello, i think they are VFM type PCPs but why are they always more heavy apart from the HW.
     
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    A friend of mine has recently bought a Coyote on the basis he could bring his grandson shooting with him.

    He has a Ripley Ar5s that recently was having a service, so he used the Coyote, shot a PB at club HFT course.
     
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    Hi I will try to give an honest view of my RM8 in .22 which is my first PCP.
    It is quite heavy but I don't find this a problem as I use sticks.
    It is very accurate I can get 10p groups up to 35yards which is the max I go up to.
    I only fill to about 180 bar then top up at 100 and haven't counted the pellets so can't comment on the shot count but I'm getting plenty enough for me.
    Tested it this morning with my new combro it averaged 11.1 over 16 shots at 120 bar, there wasn't much of a spread higher or lower.
    I was disappointed with the action to start with as it was a tad graunchy although this is getting better, whether the action is getting smoother or I'm getting better a using it I'm not sure.
    I did buy some sling studs but haven't bee brave enough to drill holes in the stock, mainly because the wood is very thin at the front. After removing the stock I can see there is one spot that is slightly thicker but not by much.
    To sum up I'm very pleased with it but wouldn't be surprised if I upgraded in the future once I'm more experienced.
     
  8. Zachariah

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    I have the Gamo and its my first and only pcp. It will give 100 shots per fill easy and its very accurate. For me its on the heavy side, I am 67 so that maybe why and because its so accurate it becomes boring after awhile! Sorry too be abit negative but if you want a budget pcp then go for the coyote. Does that make sense? Thought not.
     
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    Again not much help only to say I am faced with the same choice. Was originally budgetting £500 (Rifle only) and was looking at Hatsan AT44-10 and Walther RM8. Got a bit boggged down thinking it over and over and then thought, out of all the pcp rifles I owned many years ago the most acccurate and best fit (for me) was the AA S400 classic. So although it looks lie AA for me I am still very interested in the opinions in this thread. Missed yours cloverleaf so any chance of a short recap?
     
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    I went for the real budget PCP and bought an S200 from Europe. Blimey it's a nice accurate gun? (£345 delivered)

    Ouch!
     
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    I have now sold all my pcp riffles and gone back to springers.
    the rm8 never faild once to index or function properly in the 10.000 or so shots I put through it. Its biggest drawback was lack of trigger adjustment but the huge amount of shots it would do per fill and the fact it was regulated and accurate more than made up for that
     
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    I have the rm8 and have no complaints. good grouping. good shot count. a tad heavy but not too heavy, the bolt is smooth now it's bedded in. the gun snobs will say stay away from them but maybe they havnt tried them. Happy chappie here.
     
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    Had the RM8 and Coyote side by side for about two weeks to test them. Lets just say the RM8 went back. I have still got two coyotes. :cool: The coyote is a better gun than the RM8. for the following reasons. Action was very graunchy indexing bad and bad grouping. The coyotes we have have been used at our club so have been tested well by loads of different shooters and all have been amazed at the accuracy and shot count over a 100 in 177 flavor :) We have modified BSA R10 single shot loaders for them to be used at the club. Also we have done trigger mod to make the trigger lighter, which is a simple superb mod, makes all the difference. They are not pellet fussy and are real value for money when you look at the specifications of them. Our local RFD is doing them with bag, scope and silencer all for the sum of 399 what a bargain, as was said above out shot a Ripper AR5 and I know the man that did that as he comes to our club. ;) To sum up the coyote is a multi 10 shot rifle with 100+ shot capacity that has gauge decent ambi stock, very accurate out to 70+ yards I know this as we were shooting pebbles approx inch size at our club out in the field. All for 399 and most of its BSA I know this as well. ;)
     
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    That's not a recommendation as far as I'm concerned. BSA QC was poor when BSA owned and ran the company. Having Gamo parts added isn't going to make them better.

    Having said that the difference between a cheap pcp and a quality one will be smaller in terms of where the pellet goes than the difference between a cheap springer and a quality one.
     
  15. boxerdog

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    I have the RM8 and im enjoying it, with regards to value for money It satisfied all my wishes (warrenty, being new and shiny) not just putting pellets where I wanted them (well when im on form).
    how does it compare to some of the more recognised guns, well I can only compare it to the BSA ultra se and I feel it is no WORSE or better as both have their moments.

    some day I will do a comparison with pics and numbers
     
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    Was not meant to be one. :rolleyes: What was meant was that you would pay a lot more for something like a scorpion from BSA circa 600 squid. Cloverleaf asked what people think of these budget guns. VERY GOOD FOR THE MONEY. :) To many snobs same as buying cars if you want to buy a top brand thats your choice if you want to waste your money but the coyote would knock down just as many targets as a well known brand or put just as many rabbits in a bag for a lot less dosh than any thing costing 700 squid up.
     
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    Nice to read some honest input from people who have owned and/or used the guns.

    Some time ago I ended up with shooting obligations to meet and all of my PCPs out of service. I marched into my local RFD and bought a Hatsan AT44-10 to tide me over. Had I not already owned two full length PCPs I would have happily kept and used it indefinitely since it ticked every box. A few folks at the range looked down on it, and then all mysteriously wanted to have a go once they saw it printing tiny groups and repeatedly nailing spinners at 50 yards.

    I mention it because loads of folks were slanging them at the time, much as the two guns in this thread have been, and I see some interesting parallels.

    :)
     
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    Having been a springer only man since returning to airguns a couple of years ago I recently succumbed and decided on a pcp mainly because where I shoot and am a member I get free filling so no need for pumps or bottles/tanks.I didn't want to spend a vast amount,certainly not on a first pcp,in case I didn't like them so it was a choice between the Walther RM8,Gamo Coyote,AA S200 or BSA Scorpian single shot of which my dealer still had some stock.After handling all four I chose the Scorpian it cost me £399.The reason being that on the AA S200 and the Coyote the reach to the trigger was to far especially the Coyote that has a rather stout(thick)pistol grip as I have small hands.Wasn't keen on the style of the Walther.The Scorpian performs flawlessly, is extremely accurate and fits me very well so I bought a second one,this one in .177.Another reason I went for the Scorpian was that my dealer hires them out on their 25yd range and after having thousands of pellets through them have given no trouble.
     
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    I sold the r8 .22 as I was offered the buying price 3 months later

    i honestly think it was one of those, why did I sell ? At the time I only shot .177 and found the holdover hard.

    faultless all the time I had it and it took pleny of quarry

    chris
     
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    Loving my new Walther sweet as a nut! :up:
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