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Bsa Ultra Xl

Discussion in 'Airgun Reviews' started by Wing-span, Oct 19, 2018.

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  1. Wing-span

    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    Hi all, I've been looking at the BSA Ultra XL as a possible next PCP purchase in .177. I don't see much chat about the rifle here on the forum or elsewhere. What do you guys and girls think of the rifle?
     
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    It's a Gamo disguised as a BSA not worthy of the name and a cynical marketing ploy to extract cash from hoodwinked buyers. Buy a proper Ultra SE instead !
     
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    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    This,

    With whipped cream, chocolate sprinkles, a cherry on top,

    And wearing hot pant:)
     
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    They’re crap!!!

    It’s a Gamo and BSA discontinued it after months.

    The proper Ultra - the SE is superb though.
     
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    As others have said buy the (proper) Ultra SE unless you specifically want a gun with a thumbhole stock and if you don't there's no point in buying the Ulra XL you might just as well buy the Scorpion as opposed to the Ultra XL.
     
  6. Wing-span

    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    The Ultra SE new is more expensive right? For the same gun? And the Scorpion (which is a superb looking rifle) is a step up again in price. What is it that lets the Ultra XL down?

    Does it not say on the side "Made in the UK"? And if it is made by Gamo are not all BSA by ownership?
     
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    Do a search on here for more information and don't believe the hype you read in online reviews as they are not unbiased. The XL is cr@p although you might be lucky enough to get one that shoots ok, but please listen to the responses to this thread. If budget is an issue, it would be worth keeping an eye out on here for a good second hand SE ... avoid the likes of Freeads unless you are absolutely certain about what you are looking at.
     
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  8. Wing-span

    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    I've just checked the bsa web page. Apparently a key features of the Ultra XL is that it is "Made in Birmingham England".

    BSA aren't in the business of fake news?... So I should trust them as you guys do.
     
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    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    Good advice, worth listening to. I couldn't find any information on here about the XL which is why I started this line of questioning to find out some facts.
     
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    I would go for the Ultra SE not the XL. Can't go wrong with the Ultra SE. Fantastic little guns, compact, handle well, versatile, may be the only gun you will ever need.
    :thumb:
     
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    I have used the ultra xl, i wasn't too impressed with it.
     
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    Seems you’re finding a reason to buy the XL rather than not to buy it.....

    Pay your money and take your chances matey.

    As I said in my first post, and it maybe on their website still - BSA discontinued the XL months after it was launched due to poor sales and quality issues.
     
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    All Gamo and BSA PCP’s are made in Birmingham but the XL is a Gamo with a BSA badge.
     
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    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    Absolutely, I am in the market and am looking for reasons to buy any within my budget. Each rifle offers differences in a competitive market so I guess that I am looking for the best offer.
     
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    Shockingly and it pains me to say it as I’m no lover of anything Gamo.... the Phox and Coyotee are very good for the money.
     
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    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    Good call with the Phux and Coyote. I've only seen the press reviews (always good) and some Youtoob vids. Are they made in Birmingham? Which is why they are good rifles?
     
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    They all made in Birmingham by BSA but use a lot of Gamo components.

    Being made in Birmingham doesn’t mean good these days, BSA are a far cry from what they once were.
     
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    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    Thanks to all contributors. Plenty to think about.
     
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    It never really caught on as it's basically a Gamo Phox but with a wood thumbhole stock instead of a synthetic one so unless you specifically want a wood thumbhole stock there's little point in buying one,you just as well buy the Coyote or Phox if your budget is limited otherwise as i said most people pay a bit more and buy the Ultra SE or the Scorpion SE.There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it it's just that it never took off for the reasons i've outlined. The trigger assy may be different to the Coyote/Phox, i'm not sure, but the trigger blade itself is definitely different. If the gun particularly appeals to you and it ticks all the boxes then buy one but as with any gun handle and shoulder it first and if possible put a few shots through it to see if it is to your liking in the way it functions.It is made in Birmingham or at least assembled there which now manufacturers are allowed to say but individual components can come from other countries and i believe some parts are made in this country and some in Spain.
    But the practice is common throughout the industry. AirArms are regarded as British but two of the key components of their guns i.e the stocks and barrels are made by other foreign manufacturers something that some on this forum seem to fail to appreciate.Weihrauch are now having stocks made by Minelli(Italy) as do other makers including BSA. If you buy an American air rifle or some other make the chances are is that the whole gun will be made in China but just carry the company's brand name such as Remington or Crossman.
     
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  20. Wing-span

    Wing-span Hello Peter Rabbit. Shhh... go to sleep.

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    I'm reluctant to think that items made in countries other than the UK are inferior. Manufacturing expertise and work ethic are very competitive in other countries across many different industrial sectors. Sometimes leaving the UK to shame.

    I would be interested to hear from any 'happy with their BSA Ultra XL' shooters out there. Been auwfully quiet from that camp?
     

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