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BSA Ultra. .177 or .22 ?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Antoneady, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. Antoneady

    Antoneady Well-Known Member

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    Thinking of changing my HW97KT for an Ultra but can't make my mind up between calibre. It is for mostly hunting.
    what do you shoot, use?

    Cheers mi dears
     
  2. mattyts

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    This will be the same as 10000s of other caliber debates,use the search bar ;)

    I would go for 177,if nothing else,the pellets are cheaper :)
     
  3. Stevie Darling

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    .20 best of both:D

    Sorted!!

    We all have our views, if its for hunting then both will do the same job, as said there is pages on the subject using the search:)
     
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    anyone for popcorn lol
     
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    yes please :popkorn:
     
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    Toffee please ;)
     
  7. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Salt popcorn, hotdog, packet of revels, large coke, and a tangle twister:D
     
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    Is it raining? everyone's indoors!!!
     
  9. Antoneady

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    I understand that calibre has been done to death but I was wondering re: calibre specific to the Ultra.
    i've not been shooting long and haven't owned a PCP before. From the "it's been discussed" responses it would seem that all PCPs (or all guns of every type) shoot each calibre the same. i.e. the difference in groupings for an AA 410 between .177 and .22 will be the similar to the difference in groupings for a BSA Ultra between .177 & .22.
    This seems unlikely to me and there will be variation between brands and models, otherwise there would only be a hand ful of models.
    I am not asking what is the better calibre. I am asking how does ultra in .177 compare with other .177 guns and the same question at .22

    thanks for the combined wisdom of the collective.
     
  10. mattyts

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    The grouping is the same regardless of caliber,they all run at roughly the same power levels so trajectory will be the same too.

    Different guns do different things,that's why there's a lot of models.
     
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    So in theory, a gun that groups 2p size at 40 yds at .177, the same model will group 2p in .22?
     
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    Yes,probably some tiny difference due to manufacturing tolerances if actually done but in theory,it should.
     
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    My ultra in .22 will group within a 5p bit at 35m, they will easily compete with rifles 3 times price!!!!
     
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    One simple thing to bear in mind is if you want more shots per fill go .22
     
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    Problem with the ultra is shot count and the sweet spot within the shot count but they do shoot well.

    I have a soft spot for the ultra, it was my first pcp and I've had two of them but they where tench regged which really does transform the little rifle. The two I had shot really well, infact I shot my best ever group @ 50 yards with a tench regged ultra .177 and considering I've shot all sorts it's saying something.

    I rate the ultra highly if you get a regged one, two years ago I even set about making my r10 a ultra hybrid because I got it tench regged and a BSA ultra barrel fitted so I had a bolt action carbine instead of the mmc loading on the ultra. The newer ultras are now bolt action now and a few other upgrades.
     
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    Calibre shouldnt have anything to do with grouping at such ranges its down to the shooter learning his aim points trajectory ect i can group with my .25 doing 450 fps thats 11.76 at 35 meter at thehalifaxgun range just aswell aswith a 177 to look the group on paper in may look lotbigger but what you haveto remember is.25 is almos 2mm bigger than 177 so the groups look far bigger same priciplewith 22 vs 177 once u take away that extra mm off each sidetheres nothing in it at all all my mates thought i was crazy buying my .25 cricket when they went 177 or 22 but quite a few soon orderd them now or have them or arewaiting on them the only diffrenceis 177 gets there twice as fast and lot flatter trajectory ;)
     

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