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BSA Superstar restoration

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Truckcab79, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. Truckcab79

    Truckcab79 Busy Member

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    Thought I'd start an occasional thread charting the restoration of my 'new' superstar. Not really needing a restoration to be honest, as it's in far better condition than I expected. However, I can't resist tinkering. Always need a project or three to keep me busy.

    Condition as received.

    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/173884-BSA-Superstar-Arrives-tomorrow!

    Probably won't touch the finish on the action as it's pretty good, but will fit a tuning kit at some point, and get that power down!

    So far I've got the stock stripped. Combination of multiple applications of nitromors, scraping with a Stanley blade, toothbrush, and sanding. Have got it about halfway there. Currently on 600 grit W/Dry, and will finish on 1200 / 1500. Then stain in dark walnut (or dark oak, but I'm worried about it being too black), might be a blend of the two. Final finish will be danish oil. Did my Supersport this way, but I'm spending far longer doing this one to a better level.

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    I also like like a bit of subtle bling, so I ordered up some aluminium bar 12.5mm x 3mm. Hand bent a copy of the original trigger guard, drilled holes as per original, and polished it by hand to mirror finish. Silencer will get the same treatment (and possibly scope mounts but don't want it overdone). Very satisfying. Shown here with the original for comparison.

    That's it for now. Will post more when the stock is stained.
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    Will be watching this closely - I love a restoration job.
     
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    Me to jr i look forward to it,the furthest i got with my superstar was to get the spring and guide out the got to the maxi rail but didnt dare compress the rubber under the rail with a g clamp to knock it backwards incase i deformed the shape of the action.
    Must be brave lol

    Gaz
     
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    OLD GIT61 if no spring it wont do a thing

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    Truck can i say when you remove the action from the stock put a piece of electrical tape around trigger to hold the pins in that hold the sears and springs.I did not and it all fell to bits, took ages to find out how it all went back in.I have blued trigger guards by putting the part to be blued over the gas cooker till very hot then pop them in to a tin of oil . If you do this be safe and watch what your doing . Try some sample bit of steel till you get it right.
     
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    OLD GIT61 if no spring it wont do a thing

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    And look out for the screws some of them are not allen screws ,they are the ones that look like a star as you look at them mine had one in the trigger.
     
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    Good tip on the insulation tape. Should have learnt my lesson by doing exactly that and dropping the pin out when I did my Supersport!
     
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    Torx bits. Fortunately I have a set already. It was the only thing that would unscrew the plate under the foresight.
     
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    Depending on what you're going for.... Look at hydro dipping for the stock. It can give good effects. I havent tried it myself tho
     
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    I've seen some great hydro stuff on YouTube. Very clever. Mostly seems to be used for camo jobs, and they're just not my taste. Maybe on a difference rifle id be tempted to do something hi-tech like carbon effect, but I think this one needs to be a bit more traditional, so it's definitely going to be stain and Danish oil this time.
     
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    Slight update. Stock is now fully sanded. Used progressively finer wet and dry down to 1200 grit. Hadn't even thought about sanding it wet, but found a good guide online that suggested this, from a guy that actually sands his whilst in the shower. Each to their own!

    Each grade was sanded wet first, to raise the grain, then the same grade used dry, before moving on to wet sanding with the next finest grade, and so on.

    Pictures don't really show it well, but stock now feels like glass. Unbelievably smooth. Quite a bit of variation in timber colour with some particularly dark patches, but I'm loathe to go too far in sanding this out and I'm hoping that with a dark stain as planned, it will lend some interesting variations to an otherwise fairly bland bit of timber.

    Next to to mix up some stain samples. I think walnut, but with a dash of something else to darken and richen it further. I suspect stain may lift fibres again, so if it does will stain, then knock back with 0000 wire wool.
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    Stock now stained, and in fact has already had its first coat of danish oil. Shown here before any oil applied. Really pleased with the colour.
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    Looking good mate! Some nice grain in there, i will be doing my supperstar stock soon and im looking at using some wood dye but can you use danish oil over dye?

    really like that grain,get somemore Danish on there and keep rubbing lol:up:

    Cheers mate

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    You're meant to use water based as the regular (naphtha based?) stuff isn't good with oil. I used the regular stuff as I did the same on my supersport and whilst you can definitely see the oil picking up some of the stain, it doesn't seem to be enough to affect the colour. IIRC with the supersport it stopped once the first coat had dried out. Wouldn't swear to that though. Ill report back after a few more coats.
     
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    hi mate so your saying a water based dye would be better then? because you can then use the Danish oil?

    cheers mate gaz
     
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    Only repeating what I've read. However the same comments also said that non water based stains would be affected by oil - which they are so no reason to doubt the info. As said, I've used non-water and whilst it picks up the stain, it doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect. I presume enough sinks into the grain that it's only affecting the stuff on the surface.
     
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    Had posted in a separate post that I couldn't get the silencer off. Absolutely solid. Suspected it had been glued or at least loctited on. Well, the other day I got the heat on it with a blow torch used gently to warm it up. As it heated up I could see what I assumed was warmed loctite bubbling around the joint. Swift tap with a block of wood and off it came.

    Incredibly it only locates on less than half an inch of the barrel. Can't see any sign of loctite now it's off, and pushing it back on is near impossible. Reckon it may even have been heated to expand it, and then fitted that way, giving a really tight fit once pushed into place. That's certainly how it will be going back on.

    Here it is before
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    And after I had a go at it stripping and polishing. Can't resist a bit of bling. Very easy and satisfying.
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    Gel stain works well and you can oil it.
    Just brush it on then wipe off with a cloth
     

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    Second coat of oil last night and coming up nicely. Once first coat is on it does seem to stop lifting the stain, and I would guess that most of the stain if dissolved in the oil would in turn soak back into the stock ???

    Will keep on going for another few days following the 'once a day for a week, once a week for a month' doctrine, but will see what it looks like after 4 or 5, as I don't want it too glossy.
     
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    5 coats in and it's looking good. Can confirm that the stain only leaches into the oil for the first coat. After that, no more evidence of it. First coat seems to seal it, and no apparent colour loss either way.
     
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    Seems to have suddenly all happened really quickly, but as I said in the first post, the action is really not needing a restoration as its in pretty good nick. Some minor rust spots to the end of the underlever which I've re-blued locally with a birchwood casey kit, but it wasn't worth having it all redone. Maybe sometime in the future.

    To recap, the work completed was the following, more of a stock strip, and tart-up really, but great fun doing it:

    Beech stock stripped of old glossy varnish which apart from being horrid, was also scratched.
    Sanded (and sanded, and sanded, and sanded), down to 1200 grit.
    Stained in Indian Rosewood
    Danish oiled with 7 coats over 7 days. Was lucky, some really nice grain detail.
    New, slightly thicker trigger guard formed from 3mm aluminium bar, and polished.
    Original (and quite rare apparently), silencer, stripped and polished.
    Polished scope mounts. Not specifically designed for the maxi-rail, but I had them already, so I'll see how it shoots.
    Tasco Varmint 4-24 x 42 scope (already had it)

    Might get get round to the tuning kit in time, but I'll see how it shoots first. Need to strip it back down either way as it was running slightly hot. Probably needs a coil off, or will see if someone's added washers in the past.

    Thats it it I think. Hardly the most in depth resto, but enjoyed it, and really pleased with the finished product.

    Thanks for looking. :D
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