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Bsa Silver Star

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Wofty, Mar 5, 2019.

  1. Wofty

    Wofty Heinz Meanz Springz

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    Newly released this year and a few lads have mentioned already so threadworthy methinks.

    Price:- £699 retail

    What do we have here then? First glance it looks like a S200T clone. But it's addressed a lot of issues.
    Fully adjustable butt. It's certainly on the right tracks to fit the gun to you and get that dioptre up to your eye. Ahead of the S200 already. Personally I hate the plastic cheekpiece. it's very contempory trendy. Just stop it you cheapskates. Otherwise fully workable if not beautiful.
    Cylinder with gauge and quickfill and removable. Nice.
    Fully floated barrel. That remains to be seen. The S200 is peerless and can easily be floated.
    Match trigger. Obviously needs testing. s200 trigger gets some complaints but it can be tweaked to be very good.
    T-bar cocking handle. Interesting. The S200 can be cocked with your pinky so it needs to be very good.
    Sights. Same. Crap.
    Interestingly BSA already do their Scorpion cadet which is expressly designed for army cadet 3P shooting. A more direct competitor to the S200 in terms of dimensions.

    My gut feeling is the S200 is potentially (with work) a better gun. However this looks useable straight out of the box with the advantage of an adjustable stock. A MUST for offhand target shooting. It's quality of life features like quickfill and gauge are very welcome too.

    Personally as I have two 10m target rifles I would not be in the market for this. If I was I would consider it pending accuracy and trigger testing.
    I would budget for better sights. At this price you can't really complain as proper match sights are not cheap (ebay is your friend here).
    Given offhand target shooting and bell target shooting is seeing a little renaissance here I think this is worthy of a looksee pending said reviews.

    Nice one BSA. I think it looks a winnaaar! (just needs that cheekpiece burning)

    * Corrected retail price
     
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  2. mikeyhall1

    mikeyhall1 Pepe Le Pew

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    Yeah I think it looks nice
     
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  3. Wofty

    Wofty Heinz Meanz Springz

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    This is why a fully adjustable stock is so important. Note she is not scrunched up trying to peer down the sight. Upright head.
    I would think the rear sight on the Silver Star would benefit from a riser. A bit more depth in the forend would have been nice if I was being picky. I can't rest on my hip like the young lady illustrated so have an adjustable handrest. I've got pretty long arms too!
     
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    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    While I almost like the minimalist "exploded drawing" look to the stock, sadly it looks to be another overpriced turd based on the cheapo Buccanner platform.

    I'd be very wary of the "match trigger" - if it's the same as on the rest of these guns it'll be shocking and BSA have never fitted what any sane person would describe as a match trigger to any of their airguns.

    Looks like BSA's effort to muscle in on the apparent popularity of Target Sprint, however I'd expect AA's TS400 offering to be better in every respect, as usual.

    I can think of many, many better ways to spend six hundred pounds on a 10m rifle tbh.
     
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    rkr Post Whore

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    That was my thought also with a quick glance but that may not be the case. The breech unit is different so it could be that they have made a gun that uses the old good BSA trigger unit and not the infamous Gamo thing. Let's wait for more information or exploded diagram before we judge.
     
  6. robs5230

    robs5230 If it's a springer, it will be oversprung

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    Interesting but little real info on it yet.
    Can't see anywhere where its stated as a 10m / 6ftlb rifle though looks like its intended to be.
    An R10 type trigger blade doesn't mean it has a match trigger unit.
    I like the straight pull bolt.

    I'd like to know whether its a BSA or Gamo based action. STock smacks heavily of Gamo

    Odd that its not on the BSA website
     
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    Blue BSA Post Whore

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    Is it £599 RRP then? I have seen £575 (McAvoy's) and £699 elsewhere which is I am sure BSA's RRP (or I could be wrong).

    £699 puts not far the AA MPR (I find them a bit light and narrow, not chunky enough) and beyond that Zbroia Biatholon (something I had never seen before this morning thanks to a certain forum and now want). But £575 seems OK if it is a nice and fit. They look like something from the early 70s.......

    I am looking for a 'something' to shoot down the hall. That 'something' is constantly changing having gone from S200 to 70s 10m target springer and most things in between.
     
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    Blue BSA Post Whore

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    Well on YouTube Giles (Airgun Gear Show) featured it in his Great British Shooting Show coverage. He said that BSA will offer a 12ft/lb and a 6/ft/lb version. He said the air cylinder is removable and sort of alluded to being able to have one gun and swap. And then said it isn't interchangeable at home. About 7:30 in.....


     
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    timmytree Big Poster

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    It's obviously put together using as much of the existing platforms as possible, that's fine because no manufacturer is going to start with a radical new design are they?
    Trigger unknown but even if it's the crappy Gamo one it can easily be put right with a 2p screw. Barrel will almost certainly be BSA which have been variable in the past.
    Everything on it seems to tick the boxes. The sights may not be best quality but I expect they're perfectly usable, if an owner wants to upgrade it's easy enough. After all, how many people buy a new rifle and then spend money altering, updating and tuning? I don't want one but I would like to see some reviews and comparisons with other rifles of the same ilk. Unbiased ones.
     
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    Blue BSA Post Whore

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    There should be a version coming out without the diopters. I have wondered for a while if there is a market for air gun makers to sell barrelled actions as happens in the firearms world. Would they sell any more?
     
  11. robs5230

    robs5230 If it's a springer, it will be oversprung

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    Just watched that.
    Not possible to set cylinder to different powers, but user can swap between a 6 and a 12ftlb cylinder is how I hear it.
     
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    It is going to be 10m or full power by the change of a cylinder.
     
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    Blue BSA Post Whore

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    Thanks. :)

    I want 6ft/lb without sights, but I can't see me getting that off the shelf. The pricing and options will become clearer over the next few weeks.
     
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    robs5230 If it's a springer, it will be oversprung

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    getting a little more interested now.
    Just seen on the TAL website, there's an ambi beech sporter option in black.
    Now a threaded barrel and a regging option, even a Huma, would make it more interesting.
     
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    Dunno how they're going to do that, as you say a cylinder is just a plain air reservoir if it isn't regged, unless there is some kind of different size plenum built into the 6 and 12 versions. :shrug:
     
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    How about adding another £600 ish for AA’s offering?

    Is it THAT much better?

    Just asking, like.

    Bob
     
  17. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Gonads! The T200 from CZ (which was available through Air Arms) had a fully adjustable stock!

    [​IMG]
    See?
     
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    Was told by the BSA rep not based on any existing platform as I thought it was coyote based he said NO its a complete new gun his words. Can only believe him at this time as not took one apart. :thumb:
     
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    I highly doubt it, but then I wrote the last post before finding out what a ridiculous price the TS400 is. A far more reasonably priced MPR sporter at around £800 would be a much better value proposition than both the BSA and the TS400 IMO.
     

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