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BSA 10x50-60

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Bemused, Jun 23, 2014.

  1. Bemused

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    Hi guys, I picked up a BSA 10x50-60 along with an EV2.
    Being a new shooter I know little of this scope, perhaps you could help.

    I understand it's known as the Big BSA or BSA 50/60 and is a close relative of the Big Nikko mk1.

    I spent some time marking the wheel up and determining clicks starting at 10 yards only to find two hours latter that it did not focus on anything beyond 45 yards. I had a guess that so eone had made a b****r up of re-parallaxing down to 8 yards and on closer inspection found it ran down to 9 yards. So I re-parallaxed to 10 yards and now I have the upper end back. Again be good if you can confirm what I think happened makes sense.

    I would also like a bigger side wheel if anyone knows of any that fit, big elevation turret would be nice also. In my ignorance I tend to think all the Big Nikko addons will / may fit. It would be great if someone could confirm.

    Looking a fantastic range finder so far, the dpth of field looks to be just a few millimeters at fifty mag.

    Regards
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    Cant help with the focus issue but i wouldnt both making it focus below ten yards, is there a scope cap with a small hole drilled in it?
    The BSA 60 platinum is a fantastic scope and is the original was informed it cost BSA to much to make them so Nikko bought rights and the MK1 was born easiest scope i have used to range find, with the BSA and MK1 i recomend a sharks fin sidewheel:cool:
     
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    I preffer the the Barry Taylor shark fin type like the the top right one here, gives you the required gap at the long ranges without having a 150mm ferrus wheel on the side of your scope, AJP also make sharks fins though i wouldnt use one on a MK3 as they range the opposite way around when you turn the wheel.
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neale_marklew/Sales/sale Main.htm

    Rather then buy a top turret you can cut some white electrical tape to size on a wood board with a stanley knife, then you can write your distances on the tape with a quality fine tip permentant marker.
     
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    Thanks for your help. I have the focus sorted by lifting the bottom from 9 to 10 yards. Pretty sure someone just buggeredit up. Seems fine now although the end ring took some getting off. All my suitable tools failed but with a cold cloth wrapped around the scope body and some hot water on the end ring it just popped off by hand.

    Nothing came with it, just a bare scope. Whats with the hole in the end cap?...

    Nice to learn a little of it's history and thanks for the sharks fin tip.
     
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    Yes seen rowan, unfortunatly. Most of their cattalogue is bolted on my Wolf, I like the kit they make but don't know whot fits the big bsa.
     
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    Brilliant link and the site confirms the sharks fin fits.
     
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    Interesting Tony, I just bought an EV2 MK4 a couple of days ago, taking it to the range tomorrow with my other guns for s pellet fest.

    James
     
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    You could have a word with Jono at AJP to see how much his shark fins are for a MK1/BSA he does alot of work for people on the circuit, probly even get it anodised to match the colour of other bits on your gun.
    http://www.ajpcustomparts.co.uk/
     
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    Be nice to here what you think of the EV, paid £525 for mine as an imulse buy, not really put anything through it as the scope trouble set me back some what. Scope now probably fixed but needs marking up.
    Just had a hour marking and clicking in. Did 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 and just started 35 yards when the EV dumped all its air! Oh what fun...
     
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    Thanks for another good link. I will have a look at the various wheels in two weeks time when next at the FTC.
     
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    I thought I had been robbed until I read yours dumped it's air,:eek: serves you right you cheapscape:D.

    I paid £750, but it's in great condition and working perfectly. Put about 100 pellets through it at the range today as I was taking the Panther and MK4is for a walk, it's difficult to separate them. They are all different, but you would not know which group belonged to which gun, they are all sub 5p size groups at 35yards.

    I'm still not into this as much as you, you have really got bitten by the bug.

    James
     
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    Well you know only to well what a cheapscape I am :)

    Looks like its just the fill valve stuck open, may be that I ran it a little low on air and it dumped. In the process I expect it pushed out a bit of debris that is stuck in the valve. Its quite old being a mk1 so maybe a little grotty in the tube.
    Trying to resist the temptation to strip it myself as it has a 3 month warranty by SCR so there is no trouble getting it fixed properly.
    I actually paid £750 for the combo but that included the big BSA which is a stunner of a scope and makes my Sidewinder look sick just as Dave at SCR said it would. He also implied the same about my Wolf but I love the Wolf so I'm having none of that. :)

    First shot with the EV was a stunner, I said to my young nephew that it may take me a while to find out where the zero is, I hung a tent peg at 35 yards and bent it with the first shot! The bend was quite high up the peg and it turned out the zero was 40 yards. Flukey shot but one to remember.
     
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    Says the man with a Daystate museum... lol
    But yes I have enjoyed my two FTC sessions and possibly have more knock downs in the garden than you have Daystates.
    Shame I'm not a good shot but heyho one day maybe, its fun nevertheless.

    When are you going to try Byley? Its off J18 M6 plus about 10 or 15 minutes.

    Tony
     
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    I'm assuming your a member?

    I've got commitments over the next couple of weeks at the weekends, but could possibly do a day mid week if they are open, or a day at the weekend in 3 weeks time?

    You just want to impress me with your new found kit and skills:D.

    Drop me a PM if you have something in mind, I don't do competitions, but I'm happy to go head to head if you just want a bit of fun.

    James
     
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    Just curious why FT allows the use of these hubble like range finding scopes? As they can be used as rang finders, why not simply allow the use of lazer range finders and allow scopes to return to more sensible proportions?
     
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    James, you can shoot Byley as a guest for six quid. Every two weeks on a Sunday the course is set for a non competitive shoot, its a comp course in the main but you can mostly shoot how you wish.
    So it was Sunday just gone.
    15 lanes in a wood, two targets a lane and each shot twice is the norm.
    Its a big course, targets 8 to 60 yards, 15, 25 and 40mm kills. Also some challenging winds and shooting over water, reeds and such like obscure a target from some positions. Some targets high up in trees.

    Shortage of facilities though, just a porta cabin dumped in the woods, no latrine but a gas stove and brew gear laid on for free but you have to diy brew. Infact its all diy, you just put your money in a honesty tin and shoot.

    Google Byley FTC, its a poor site though.

    Be good to meet up sometime.
     
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    Pete, I'm just a rank idiot who has shot FT club day twice! So others are far more qualified to comment but IMO range finding with a scope is a little challanging.

    50 mag ranges great but you try and find a metal rat high in a branch at 60 yards on that mag...

    You have to mark up your ranges and work out your clicks off course. Plentiful manoeuvring room for cockups here. Numerous different methods.

    Then on course the actual ranging is not so easy as it seems within your 2 minute time window.
    For me it goes something like

    Time zero
    Zoom out, find target, zoom in, start to find a focus, lose target, find target, find focus, read rannge, yes its in between 40 and 45, lookup the clicks for 40 and 45, estimate the bit in between and it's non linear. Set clicks, target now lost, find target again, worry about windage, take the shot, big BANG, yep must remember to load a pellet before pulling the trigger, lose target, find target, take the shot, reset the target if your lucky!
    Usually forget to rest the turret or else turn it the wrong way back to zero and get the clicks totally wrong on the next shot.
    Then repeat for target 2, around this point I get cramps and wobble over, lose the target again, find the target but then realise its target 1 not target 2, ditto, ditto, ditto. And whilst all this is going one there is the banter, friendly advise - the wind is that way, nah its a still wind, nah its the muzzel wind thats the killer not the target wind, nah we have three winds on this one mate, and oh your 2 minutes are up mate!
     
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    I appreciate its not a given, but hubble scopes with huge side wheels are as near to pukka range finders as you can get..Would to see a /few of the FT crowd compete without a side wheel, or even with "shock/ horror" open sights! Of course scores would plummet but it would be interesting to see basic rifle/shooting skills coming more into play..
     
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    Pete, last Sunday a guy shot Byley with a springer and small fixed mag scope, he was right behind me and was a joy to watch. Judged evey range by eye and shot hold over or under from experience alone. He mostly cleared the course.

    Now if thats how you had to shoot FT I for sure would not be trying to master it, well beyond my capabilities.
     

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