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Brand new user seeking advice

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by lahuretz, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. lahuretz

    lahuretz Member

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    Hi all,

    Thanks in advance for reading and any help that may follow. I've just purchased a GAMO Hunter 440 .22 with a Deben Hawke 3-9x40 Scope (And a Swiss Arms P-1911 for kicks). This is my first air rifle and I'm very new to the sport/activity (first time on any sort of forum too so be nice in case I don't follow any etiquettes!). I have a relatively small backyard where I have been shooting over the last few days and unsuccessfully zeroing in my scope (I'm beginning to wonder if there's something wrong with it). Would someone be kind enough to spare a bit of time on the following questions for me?

    - What distance do you advise zeroing in a scope at?
    - When zoomed all the way out, my mil-dots are fine and in focus. However, when I zoom in, they tend to fade out and even disappear at times. There isn't another dial to focus it in. The focus dial lets me focus on my target, but doesn't affect the clarity of my mildots. Am I doing something wrong or should I contact the sellers regarding this?
    - I am based in Reading, Berks and really looking into shooting rabbit (mainly to eat :)): Are there any hunting groups/clubs nearby that I could possibly join (google wasn't too helpful) or any areas where you know of that I may be able to shoot? I'd be happy to join someone if they wouldn't mind.

    Really looking forward to responses and getting shooting me some wabbits!
     
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  2. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Welcome to the forum mate,

    what scope are you using??
     
  3. goatboy

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    Hi and welcome, i can offer some advise. With a full power .22 air rifle i personally zero the scope at 10 yards and then it should also zero in again at 25/28 yards as the sight line of the scope meets the pellets trajectory again. As for the scope it self it would help if people knew which scope you are using, but hazzarding a guess i would suggest you unlock the ring at the eye piece and adjust the eye piece of the scope in or out ( it twists on a thread like the locking ring) till the mil dots focus to your liking, then tighten up the locking ring. I wear glasses and have found i have had to do this with some of my scopes, it might not sort it but it is worth a try. Good luck mate. atb
     
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    ok without knowing the scope this is a bit of guesswork, but also being new to the sport I had these problems also a few months back:

    Things to Check:

    1) the scope is on the gun correctly. For the majority of scopes this means that the elevation turret is on the top and the windage (left/right) is on the right.
    2) Parallax, this to me sounds like it could be the problem. Does the scope you have mention "AO" in the title (adjustable objective). If the scope does not have AO adjustment then it is probably set to some crazy distance like 100 yards.

    I think the reason that you cannot see reticule/target in focus at the same time is because the AO is factory set to 100 yards and you are trying to aim at things a lot closer. You can test this by pointing the scope at something a lot further away and then seeing if the target/reticule are then in focus.

    Parallax will also cause zeroing issues because if the scope is pre-set to 100 yards a small head movement will "move" the reticule around on your target, so unless you have your head in exactly the same spot each shot (impossible with a springer as you have to take head off stock to reload) then each shot will have a different point of aim and therefore crap grouping as a result.

    I had exactly this when I bought a new gun with a cheap hawke scope, had I known about parallax I would have spent the extra fiver on the AO model!

    If you have a hawke scope that is non AO adjustable then you can alter it but this will void your warranty - but is pretty simple to do.
     
  5. simonc_here

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    10 yards to start off with then you will get a secondary zero at 28 yards or so.
    You need to set the focus dial (on the front or side of the scope depending on what it is) to infinity or as high as it will go. Set the mag to highest. check at the eye end of the scope for a bit that moves when you twist it. it may have a couple of arrows on it or may not. This focuses the cross hairs to your eye like a pair of glasses. Then point the scope at a patch of sky or cloud and make the cross hairs come into focus by using the eye bell adjustment.
    Shooting permissions are usually very hard to come by and jealously guarded. You may find someone to help you out but it's usually a case of door knocking at farms and stables etc. Also you might want to become proficient with your rifle before you even think about pointing it at anything live.


    Welcome to the forums.
     
  6. Clubshot

    Clubshot Clubshot

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    As often State New or returning Air Gunners

    Check out local Air Gun Clubs - Most are Friendly and will offer advise -

    Plus far better to set up on a distant range than a limited Back Garden

    As the Vermin Shoots - Several Hundred Air Gunners to available Shoots

    In your Area Shooting rights are sold to Fire Arms users - Who are willing to pay to use their Fire Arms of Shoots

    Also Most local Air Gun Vermin Shoots have long be take on by Air Gun Club Members -

    BOB/R
     
  7. lahuretz

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    Thanks a lot for your response, it's a Deben Hawke 3-9x40 Scope that came with the rifle.
     
  8. lahuretz

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    Thanks you all for your responses! This is wayyy better than what I was expecting! It's a Deben Hawke 3-9x40 Scope that came with the rifle.
     
  9. simonc_here

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    If you fancy a trip down to Newbury on a Sunday morning there is a club that can help you out with starting up.
    Or Bisley in the other direction.

    Is the Scope a
    Sport HD?

    http://www.deben.com/hawke-riflescopes.html
     
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  10. lahuretz

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    I can take a trip down to Newbury sure! Please forward on any further details! I believe the scope is AO Sport HD (Without IR).
     
  11. simonc_here

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    I'll PM you the contact details. It's just off the A34/M4 junction.
    I'm not there this weekend, but will be next.

    Your scope will have a fast focus eye ring, you just need to set that to get your cross hairs in focus.
     
  12. Tripleteer

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    Welcome along to THE forum, enjoy your stay with us. Atb. Paul.
     
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    Welcome along. Plenty of good advice up above.
     

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