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bore sight devices

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by dave hunt, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. dave hunt

    dave hunt Engaging Member

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    I can't believe I have got to this age and only just come across this device.Advice please on whats available,how good they are,and general advice all round.I currently pepper the countryside with pellets before getting anything like an idea of how a scope is aligned!This device sounds the biz.Enlighten me.
     
  2. 18 Wheeler

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    Pointless on an air rifle IMO.

    At best they only get you close to being zeroed.

    They are really designed for full bore shooters who want to save on cost and barrel wear, and on very large calibres the joy of extreme recoil which can become irksome after only 4 or 5 shots.

    Pellets are cheap, it should only take 2 shots to get in the same area as a bore sighter, maybe a few more if you can't be bothered to roughly work out how many clicks to move you POI and just twidle the knobs.
     
  3. dave hunt

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    Getting close to being zeroed sounds OK to me;Have you NEVER fitted a scope only to find that there are NO pellets on a very large target area?Or have I just been unlucky?
     
  4. Snipertez

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    Hi Dave, Optically centering the scope (as with a mirror etc) before fitting helps some. Plenty of info behind the search button.

    As 18wheeler says above, it shouldn't take many shots to get close enough for fine tuning.
     
  5. r10hunter

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    As above your money is better spent on other kit.
    Work out your 8 yard point of impact. ( or some other close range that is convenient)
    Shoot at 8 yards until your point of impact is near enough. Go back to your zero range and fine tune.
    Cheers Andy
     
  6. Dunkman

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    Start closer to the target when you Zero the scope and when the pellets are on target move back bit by bit to your zero range.............
     
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    In my opnion, best spend your money on a good gun stand.. you can zero then with 1 shot. Needs to be a good sturdy one so there is no movement. take a shot at a white piece of paper at you desired range then look down the scope while you turn the turrets to line the crosshair with where the pellet struck.. simples.. if your unlucky and the 1st shot was a flyer, you may need to repeat the process.

    Then you can use the stand for cleaning and maintainance etc.
    Thats how I do it and it works a treat.

    Nige
     
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    Hi Dave,just bought one of these little gadgets(£12.99)off Ebay.Wasn't expecting much for the price but thought I'll give it a try and was pleasantly surprised.Always used to sight a scope in at 10mtrs to start with which normally means you on again at roughly 30mtrs.Using one of these gadgets does quicken the process and gets your scope very near your chosen zero quicker and without wasting pellets,you just need 2 or 3 pellets for final adjustment to get it spot on.For the money I personally think they're a good buy
     
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  9. terry1001

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    I've got one of these cheap boresighters (from J S Ramsbottom I believe) which also covers .177. I find it quite useful when changing scopes or working with scopeless nv units. You can't expect them to be spot on but it gets me within a few clicks in no time at all. You can't use them with a silencer in place though.
     
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    Found them very useful fod gauge to save rounds
     
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    I would have thought this would be a useful tool for ensuring that the barrel and scope rail are in alignment. If a barrel band is present ( for example ) it could be tightened in such a way that there could be misalignment in the windage plane. If this misalignment is present then for a given elevation the windage would be zeroed true, but, at different elevation there would be a windage error due to, in effect, the barrel and the scope pointing in different directions in the windage plane.

    Hope this makes sense.
     
  12. terry1001

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    Yes you can use one for checking the barrel alignment as you make adjustments to clamps, grub screws etc. On some rifles you can rotate the barrel which will move the point of impact and you can use this if, for example, you are unable to zero your scope due to insufficient adjustment.
     
  13. Honest Bob

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    I got one, what a waste of money, save your money, and do as Duncman sugests, it works for me. With your average full power air rifle, once you have zero at 15 to 17yds, you should be able to move back to 30 to 35yds, and do your fine tuning. A picture showing the 2 zero points for my TX. Atb Bob. View attachment 98833 PS. But if you want one, PM me, you can have the one I have, free of charge, as I don't use it. But what you have to remember is, a laser travels in a strait line, but a pellet does not. so you would still have to fine tune your zero.
     
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  14. Honest Bob

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    Received your PM, The Bore Sighter will be on its way to you soon, Bob.
     
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    Once again I have been deeply impressed by the kindness of people on this forum.Many thanks to Bob.
     

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