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Black Pepper Stock

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Halinfax, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Gentlemen.....

    Please can anyone give any constructive advise on re-working an R10 black pepper stock that I have just been very fortunate enough to obtain...

    In particular re shaping the cheek piece...

    Many thanks..
     
  2. Boysey

    Boysey Keyboard Hero

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    Not too sure what you're after, but a PM to our very own stock Guru @wsnaith (Warren) might be worthwhile.


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    Send it to @Nobby :up:
     
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  4. Boysey

    Boysey Keyboard Hero

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    Yep.. Forgot Nobby. Another STAR


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  5. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Thanks chaps... I am gonna be doing the work myself.. its more advise with regards to the "laminations" and or any specific finishes to use..

    The ones I have made have been out of solid timber and laminate ply.. Just wondered if there is summat "special" about the "pepper" finishes.
     
  6. Boysey

    Boysey Keyboard Hero

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    Wasn't inferring send it to them but more about advice, before getting out the Dremal


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  7. Gary Jones

    Gary Jones Pro Poster

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    Swop it for my walnut one. Wouldn't you rather have a nice walnut r10 stock?
     
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  8. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Ahh cheers Boysey..... yes.. indeed, I shall contact either one or both to glean some advise from their wealth of knowledge...:thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
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    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Gary.. I have a walnut one.. (and a VERY nice one at that)....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  10. Nobby

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    They are hard, tough to work on. The gloss finish will chip, most likely.
     
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    Dammit. Worth a try :)
     
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    My bsa ultra one I believe is a lacquered finish. I think most production ones are.
     
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  13. Keylo

    Keylo Horses Bikes Skis & Injuries

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    I think the pepper is just a reference to the colour. As in salt and pepper, black grey and white.
     
  14. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Hello @Nobby , thank you for your input.

    I have woodworking tools available (sander, linisher, mops etc) as I have made stocks before (NOTHING like yours mind...)... I was more concerned about the sanding/machining and then finishing off the surfaces...

    On the hardwoods I have used, its always been an oil of some descript that I have used for finishing, is it the same for the "pepper" type finishes please??
     
  15. tillygti6

    tillygti6 Tilly's gun stocks....

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    The hardest part will be stripping off the laquer, reworking it isn't a problem.just treat it like you would any other hardwood,but don't try and plane it. Stick to using abrasives.

    The flecked finish that bsa call the black pepper, is low pressure dyed birch laminate. The softer parts of the grain take the dye at a lower pressure than the denser bits, so the harder grain doesn't take a dye and gives the nice flecks through it.

    Rework it, sand no finer than a proper 320 grit (if you intend to oil it) then scotchbrite it to burnish the grain and itl oil up lovely.
     
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  16. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Thank you Tillygti.... that's good info...

    Is the dye pressure treated all the way through the stock or only the top few millimetres....

    I am considering scalloping out the right hand side of the rear stock (same as the R10 super carbine stock)..
     
  17. tillygti6

    tillygti6 Tilly's gun stocks....

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    The veneers are dyed all the way through. Then laminated into the blanks.

    Personally I wouldn't scallop it, your eye relief effectively changes as you change stance, and itl make it hard to spot parralax error.

    Flatten the top off and sharpen up the profile and itl work great...
     
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    Iv'e got to ask what are you wanting to do to it (i have zero input just nose'y :D)
     
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    TrickyDicky Life in the slow lane

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    I just treat laminate as i would any other wood and finish the same way usually Danish oil.
     
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  20. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Heyup Tillygti... I would like it the same "wave" profile as the R10 super carbine I have... the black pepper one is ambidextrous and so I would like to 1) reduce some of the weight... 2) give it a similar profile to my other R10...
     

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