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Blaacking Or Another ?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by gedfinn, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. gedfinn

    gedfinn Busy Member

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    I had a pistol which was Parkerised , As I have most of the gear ( Except black manganese )
    which I ordered today !
    What do the Forum think of this, I noted all Usa military guns are ,

    As an add on to the welders, I recently tried out Stainless soldering which I have had
    a few years & TIG brazing, Both excellent ,
    Ged.
     
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    gedfinn Busy Member

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    I posted this a while ago, This arrived an hour ago,
    I will be Phosphating/Parkerising tomorrow,
    Ged. STA70343.JPG
     
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    Interested to see how you get on Ged ... keep us posted with before and after piccies :up:
     
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    gedfinn Busy Member

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    Will do,
    Ged.
     
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    shergar Posting Addict

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    Will be most interested in your results. Considering Hydrogen Peroxide rusting and phosphoric acid pacification as a cheap and readily available treatment for an old gun, especially as our expert Mr Chell is retiring.
     
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    Also watching this with interest.:)

    Off topic I know but my eagle eyes also spotted the can of aldi pilsner in the foreground. Not a bad brew that :thumb:
     
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    As above watching with interest,nice to see people trying other things . :thumb:
     
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    HW100Tuning Straight Pride

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    Very interesting... let us know how you get on please.
     
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    Same here I will need a few rifles doing so I’m looking at ways to do it
     
  10. gedfinn

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    Hi, It needed other chemicals ( Which I have ) Some difficult to obtain , Like the acid !
    But it needs to be almost boiling , Around 95c
    ish, So am making a container combined with a heating source, Obviously in the open air, This is to hold barrels & Cylinders , Smaller parts can be done in the cheap cooking pot I bought at a car boot , Sunday,

    I also Nickel/Copper plate this is a good finish when polished , ( might even show you some ) Ha ha,
    & a pic of the .25 barrels I make , Boring out smaller calibre barrels, Drilling almost to size , Reaming & Rifling Etc, ( This is the easiest option )
    There are apparently Dull & Shiny options ?
    Cheers, Ged.

    PS, Its impossible to make without a Beer, Ha,
     
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    Which acid do you find difficult to obtain? I find ;hydrochloric; sulfuric and phosphoric readily available. Nitric as a precursor to explosives is more restricted.
     
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    I reckon he needs phosphoric;)
     
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    ive now decided to carry on for as long as poss so retirement is off for the the time being
     
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    That’s good news Paul I will be sending some your way once I have stripped them
     
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    robs5230 леший

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    Thats good news for the lads on here Paul.
    Have you made this public ?????
     
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    no not yet but will do very soon
     
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    robs5230 леший

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    I hope things work out Paul.
    Time to look for a springer again
     
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    I am making up a gallon as we speak, I also quite like the look of the
    Grey Zinc phosphating ?
    I have been reading about adding copper, to the mix ? I,ll suck it & See.

    I have all of these acids except nitric,( One of these could be converted to Nitric, )
    I have 81 % Phosphoric, To be used for Phosphating , ( As the name suggests ) Ha ha.
    Hydrochloric is allways around 35 % ( Diluted for rust removal )
    Sulphuric which I use for anodizing is 96 % ( Way too strong ) A diluted version is required.


    Cheers , Ged.
     
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    Hi Ged.

    You sound like you know your stuff so forgive me if I'm trying to teach granny to suck eggs.;)

    May I suggest not using mineral acids for pickling/rust removal before a phosphating process. Doing so causes the structure of the film to lay down with a coarse crystalline grain with large gaps if you will in between. This is not only rougher to the touch but affords little corrosion protection.
    Smooth polished surfaces also tend to phosphate with coarse grain.
    I've always found it best to blast with a fine media or abrade with scotchbrite before phosphating. This promotes a finer denser grain structure which not only looks better feels smoother but affords greater corrosion resistance.

    Atb
    Danny.
     
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    why not just buy the blacking salts. it saves all this guess work and fuxxing about. I buy my blacking salts in 25kg bags. bring it to 140C and away it goes.
     
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