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Advice Been offered a HW77

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Harwich Shooter, May 16, 2014.

  1. Harwich Shooter

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    My brother in Laws friend (old boy) has a HW77 for sale. He offered it to my Brother in Law who is not interested (non shooter) who mentioned it in passing to me.

    I have just phoned the fella and got a description. He says it is in good nick with no rust. It has not been fired in 10 years or so and he thinks it is 20 years old. The serial number is 1012096 which looks more like 1984 ish

    He does not know beech from walnut but from his description, I am hoping it is walnut. It has some kind of nikko sterling scope on it I did not catch the flavour but that has to be 10+ years old too. No silencer.

    It has sport waffen written on it (end of stock i think)

    I forgot to ask if it is .177 or .22, not that it matters to me as I have no preference on calibre.

    I do fancy a play with a springer again after many many years since owning a 1970's original .22.

    My question is, should I get excited and go and see it? It is about 25 miles away.

    What should I offer him?

    Thanks
     
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    Go and get it bought

    It should be a MK1 with 25mm cylinder and piston. :up:

    Unless the stock has been changed at a later date it will be beech.

    I'd be looking to offer £100 and work upwards depending on condition and whether the original rearsight is included or not, just bare in mind that you may have to strip and rebuild it after 30 years of use.

    If it's a minter I'd be happy paying up to £200 in .177" and £175 in .22", condition is everything.





    All the best Mick
     
  3. Egg

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    ^^ Agreed - anywhere between the prices mentioned. You never know your luck, it might be a minter that you pick up for a pittance. You could also be unlucky in that the owner may have a clue as to the value. Still, nothing ventured and all that :)
     
  4. Harwich Shooter

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    Thanks T 20 and Egg,

    Will keep you posted and if I buy it, I will be back with pics and 'what to do next' questions.

    Kenny MacA's a 'heed the baw'
     
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    I just hope he doesn't come back with a Walnut thumb hole 77 with a sticker of two cobras on the cylinder and tell us he gave the bloke £25 for it. :eek: :( :( :(



    I may may just have to say a naughty word or two. :D





    All the best Mick
     
  6. Egg

    Egg Major Poster

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    Don't, just..... don't :(
     
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    My Brothers HW77 was a beast, for me it's one of the best springers I've shot! He still regrets selling it....
     
  8. JD

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    This is one of those threads, where I wait with baited breath to see what turns up.

    It has been proven that there is the odd Hw77 out there, that sports a walnut factory standard style stock.

    If Harwich Shooter comes back with a .20 walnut stocked 77 with a twin cobra sticker on it.

    I think this thread should be deleted and Harwich shooter, banned from posting for a month of Sundays. LOL
     
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    Just think John

    It could turn out to be a fully adjustable thumb hole Walnut job with four interchangeable barrels and Chameleon written on it. :cool:

    We can only dream. ;)




    All the best Mick
     
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    Just for info Mick,

    Having spoke to Airmasters, only 7 Chameleons were ever made,

    But and its a good butt ( LOL )

    They will still make one to order.

    All the best

    John.
     
  11. Harwich Shooter

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    Just to wet your appetites. I am going over tomorrow (sunday) morning for a look see with some pellets and my chrombo. I still forgot to ask him if it is a .177 or .22

    watch this space.
     
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    A bit slow off the blocks there Harwich shooter, did you just want to pass his details over to me ? LOL

    If the rifles not been shot for 10 years, your need to give it a good few clearing shots before you put the crombo on it.

    Its an easy rifle to sort out if low on power and they tune up very nicely as well. ; )
     
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    You're not wrong John but it's best to remember that the factory springs used in the MK1 had 100mm of preload. :eek:

    Hours of fun. :D




    All the best Mick
     
  14. Harwich Shooter

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    Right, not sure where to start. I went to see the nice old suffolk boy (82 years young) in Hadleigh this morning after the car boot at Ardleigh.

    Needless to say I purchased the HW77 and did not pay a kings ransom. (not saying)

    From the old fellas earlier telephone description, I thought I was in for a bit of a treat. Cutting the story right short, It has had a hard unloved life by the looks of it. It is .22 flavour, weighs more than my Raider!

    I just weighed it in at 9lbs 14oz with the funny little mismounted nikko sterling attached.

    Not sure what power output it is as I could not see how to easily put my chrombo on it.

    I did test fire it and it seems a little under if anything. The trigger is set to 'fine hair' and surprised me a bit as I was just lining it up and had gently taken up the first stage and pow. I did hit more or less where I was aiming though :)

    I am going to sell it on in the next few days as I really am a pcp boy. There is really no comparison between this HW77 and my HW100.

    See some pics:-

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    That's so true Mr HS --- the 77 is a proper gun. :p :cool:



    All the best Mick
     
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    Looks like a great project for someone. Wish it could be me...
     
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    I agree - that's not too shabby at all given that it's a 1984-1985 vintage.
     
  18. Harwich Shooter

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    Right then, as I said before, I am going to sell this nice old (dinosaur) HW77.

    Before I do though, I would like to find a way to fit my Chrombo to it so that I can see what ooomph it is firing at. At to see what groupings I can get with a springer. I suspect not very good having been used to its slick younger brother HW100

    Can anyone give me any pointers on how to chrono this gun with a Chrombo?

    Many thanks,.
    Paul
     
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    i managed to hit my chrombo,a hw57 but pretty much the same,be v careful,some advice given was to tape it to the gun.good luck
     
  20. Egg

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    IIRC that age of gun had its foresight blade fixed to the underlever catch assembly so.... with some difficulty I'd say. If the foresight comes off then I'd remove it, turn the chrono upside down and try it that way but, like I say, it might not detach.

    You could try attaching the chrono sideways (90° to the barrel) and apply liberal amounts of lacky bands or insulating tape to keep it in place, otherwise find someone or somewhere that has a Chrony type unit - local gunshop might be a good place to try :)
     

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