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BARREL CLEANING

Discussion in 'Stickies Only' started by stevemandm, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. stevemandm

    stevemandm Honorary Member

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    so guys, you all know that this is one of the most debatable subjects in shooting - to clean or not to clean ?
    anyway, as most of you will know, and testify to, me n matty, make our own pull through kits. as a result, we have done some thorough testing, and can 100% confirm that cleaning the barrel does work, if done correctly and for the correct reasons.

    if you ever clean your pellets (or look into the bottom of an empty pellet tin), you will see all the lead flashing/contaminants that will get blown down your barrel. some of this will stay attached to the pellet and exit, some will attach itself to the barrels rifling, potentially causing accuracy issues.

    through testing, and trial and error, we have come up with a bit of a guide, that we hope you all will find useful.
    everyone who cleans their barrel may have their own method, but this works for us, and this is the method that we recommend for those who ask.

    REASONS FOR BARREL CLEANING

    1. always clean a new barrel - the manufacturers usually leave the barrel coated in 'gunk/lubricant' from the manufacturing process. this acts as a protectant/corrosion inhibiter, and it is also one less thing for them to do.

    2. always clean the barrel of a used gun that you dont know the history of.

    3. always clean a barrel when pellet testing. do this before every new/different type of pellet - this ensures that all the pellets are starting 'from an even playing field', and so can be best compared with each other. please note that it will probably take 30 or so pellets to condition/re lead the barrel, so at least 50 pellets are required when pellet testing.

    4. always clean the barrel when accuracy deteriorates or suffers, and nothing else in the equation has changed or been altered.

    in short, only clean when necessary - if it aint broke, it dont need fixing !


    HOW TO CLEAN A BARREL

    1. insert pull through lead (loop first) through the barrel so that it exits at the pellet chamber (starting from muzzle end). this is best done with a bare barrel. if you have a moderator fitted, and cant remove it, insert a drinks straw to line up the loop and aid insertion.

    2. fold up a patch and put a few drops of oil (any, but 3in1 is good and cheap) onto the patch and slowly pull through. repeat this again, then discard the dirty patch. this coats the barrel with a v v thin smear of oil, which helps with the cleaning.
    be careful if your barrel has an internal o ring seal

    3. leave for 15 minutes or so. this helps to start to break up any contaminants that may be on the barrels internal surface.

    4. insert the pull through, and pull through a clean patch. repeat this another 5 times or so, each time rotating the patch to reveal a clean surface area. we've found that you can use a patch about 6 times, if you rotate it to reveal a clean area. each pass should see the patch getting cleaner.

    5. if by the last pass, the patch is not perfectly clean, repeat step 4 with a clean patch until clean

    6. your barrel should now be clean, free from contaminants, and ready to re lead with your pellet.

    these are the patches that we buy and supply with our kits http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/900-Nail-...1283237819?pt=Nail_Polish&hash=item2c895e93bb
    less than £3 for 900 ! much cheaper than the napier ones that do the same job (they are approx £1.80 for 60 or so).

    anyway, we hope that this guide is of use and helps.

    steve n matty
     
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  2. XTX

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    Nice guide, pretty much the way I look at barrel cleaning.

    If I had to be picky I would say use an O ring friendly oil like Napier Power Airgun Oil if you have a barrel with an O ring in it. 3 in 1 and other oils can damage/degrade O rings.
     
  3. Lee67

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    Top post Steve, I'm normally of the don't clean brigade , apart from when new or bought used..and I use Napier too
     
  4. terry1001

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    If anyone didn't know you come from Yorkshire then point 4 would give them a pretty good clue! I don't suppose you rotate your y fronts as well do you :D
    It's a very good guide, thanks.
     
  5. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Nice post mate,

    not much more to add but, use in conjunction with a matty pull through kit:)
     
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    I'm from Yorkshire , but I use a fresh patch each time..took 4 patches to get my new hft500 clean...never entered my head to reuse same patch lol...
     
  7. wobblybootie

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    I been checking out this barrel cleaning argument.

    I have always had the urge to clean the barrel (I was taught / trained to clean as often as possible but that was with military kit) Here's my question ( assume napier patches, the little green ones in their kit) The instructions say for .177 use two strips and for .22 use 3 at a time ... What about us .20 users eh???

    Common sense says use 2 as 3 would (in all likelihood) get stuck and I for one am not going to try it just to find out that common sense prevails!!

    However if the patches are manufactured to the correct dimensions so that combinations thereof provide the correct amount of 'resistance' when drawn through the barrel to cleanse it correctly where does that leave us (the ones who have chosen the proper calibre ie .20 or for those metric types 5mm :D)

    Logic says that 2 patches will not provide the correct pressure nor 'expand' into the grooves and lands enough to clean effectively and I do not even want to think about getting a wad stuck or rip out any seals that happen to be loafing around!!

    I suppose I could get creative and try to size some rizla rollups filter tips and blast them through with a pellet behind them (how the hell I'm going to do that with the HW100 I don't know)

    Suggestions and ideas folks?? (and NO!! swapping my pride and joy for one of your common or garden devices is right out!!)

    Tim
     
  8. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    What I would do mate is get an old t-shirt and cut into patches, start of small then increase the size until you get a bit of resistance when pulling through:)
     
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    this is what i usehttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Napier-4730-Rifle-Clean-Shotgun-Patch-Dispenser-Box-/290869789289?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item43b930c269 , it comes in a continuous roll so you can cut as much as you want . it says it can be wrapped round one of those horrible brush things but i just use a pull through . i cant see any reason it would not work for .20 atb gary.
     
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  10. wobblybootie

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    Warrenator ... was there a link? as I can't see one ... it's arrived ... (the link)
     
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    yep i forgot it , old fool lol
     
  12. stevemandm

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    as well as rotating the grundies terry, i turn them inside out ...... that way, i can wear the same pair for 4 weeks instead of 2 ! :eek:
     
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  13. The Robin

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    Great write up Steve and will help all members from new to old :up:
     
  14. Scope.22

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    Using pull throughs on say the Air Arms S400, will the the o rings in the breach be ok from pulling through patches?
     
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    I've never had it happen on 5 S400s in 3 years.
     
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    That's good then, I love my S400 and want to keep it in shape.

    My groupings opened up with my S400, I must have put about maybe 500 pellets through it until the groupings opened up. So I gave it a clean with Napier gun cleaner/gun oil. Not much dirt came out at all, so gave a few passes and stopped at that. Will find out next time I go to the club how well I get on.
     
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    What is the opinion on the cleaning pellets? Worth it in addition to pull through or instead of?
     
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    As a substitute,no but used often,extends the time between cleaning with the pull through kit.
     
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    Thanks for the info Matty.
     
  20. robbo5412

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    I like the pull through method it makes me feel as I'm making a difference to the barrel. Felt cleaning pellets I stopped using them after I shot the felt in a cardboard box so I could see how clean the felts were but the felt went straight through the box and shot myself in the big toe the air was blue.:eek:
     
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