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Barrel cleaning???

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by neiled, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. neiled

    neiled Donator

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    I've been checking out the best ways to clean my barrel (BSA Ultra multishot .22) and found videos showing both "cleaning pellets" and the "pull through cloths" so which is the best and is there anything wrong with using the "cleaning pellets" method as it seems soooo easy? Also how often should this be done and what's the best gun oil to use with both of these methods?
     
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    If you use cleaning pellets & then a pull through you'll find there's still a lot stuff left, whether or not that's important I don't know.
     
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    I use napier air rifle cleaning kit contains everything you need to effectively clean any type of .177 .22 calibre you will find this on eBay I do this after every shoot I also wash my pellets making sure there all dry then I use Napier pellet lubrication not to much tho

    Lodgey
     
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    I got a Napier pull through kit, oil, cloths, everything included. So far I've only used it when my guns were brand new, just to get the grease out of the barrell! I think it's advised to do every 1000 ish pellets, if you do it too often you'll remove the leading from the barrell. Also every gun/pellet combo is probably different
     
  5. Danny Fireblade

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    Ive got an AA S410k that ive had from new since about 2003. In that time ive not cleaned the barrel once, it still puts pellet on pellet at 30m.I dont dare think how many pellets its had through it? I should give it a pull through at least but its so accurate i wonder if its worth it?
     
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    In over 40 years and maybe a 100 guns have i ever cleaned a airgun barrel..... just keep shooting it
     
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    I use a pull through with a tiny bit of LT6 gun spray, but I only clean the barrel if I notice something is wrong like my group has opened up, so its not cleaned very often. if its not broke don't fix it.
     
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    I use doubled strimmer line and small patch when groups open up, or i'm pellet testing
     
  9. muzzy76

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    Never seen the need to clean the barrel of an air rifle.

    Ive used cleaning pellets while trying to sort accuracy issues out with guns, purely to remove a dirty barrel as a cause, but for day to day use, there's no point in my opinion.

    In the years I owned my S300, I put thousands of pellets through it, never cleaned the barrel once and when sold it still held sub inch groups at 60 yards.
     
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    Interesting responses as it appears to be very an personal subjective subject. I think I'll give it a try using the "pull through" method and then only do it again when I feel it may need it, rather than doing it on a regular basis.
     
  11. The Robin

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    I only barrel clean when accuracy goes or pellet testing. I used to use them foam pellet things which you shoot through the barrel but I've seen the light due to stevemandm & Matty, I use there pull through kit with the tip from Steve on the cloth he put links up for :up:
     
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    Aside from any abnormal issues along the lines of "the gun got left out in the shed for a year and looked a bit rusty both inside and outside the barrel!" And I guess I'm talking about normal useage....... does anyone actually see a quantifiable improvement in accuracy after cleaning their barrel?
    I'm talking about an "Obvious" improvement. Not a minimal one that can be attributed to some kind of Placebo effect (I've done the work so it must be better... Oh yes!).

    I have cleaned a barrel, but saw no quantifiable improvement.

    Changing pellet brands, I've always shot 20/30 shots though, 2 or 3 magazines..... before noticing a settlement of the grouping. And the grouping then remains stable, so after another few magazines I can make a good enough decision on whether the pellet works for me or not?

    Barrel cleaning never showed me an improvement worth the effort as yet, although I'm always open to suggestions.
     
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    For me if it's not broken leave it alone :up:

    Yes after a barrel clean it takes 3 or 4 mags worth of pellets to settle. My rifles are pellet tested so I know what they like best so until things go south on the accuracy front I'm staying as I am
     
  14. sharpsman

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    About the only time i clean a barrel is on a new gun or unless i have been shooting in the rain and think water has got into the barrel,I used to clean my barrels after a few tins of pellets and nearly always the accuracy suffered till after about a 100 shots and then returned to were it had been before i cleaned it so now i don't bother.
     
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    i clean mine every 250 shots on ev2, ive shot a few thousand on the s400 never cleaned it
     
  16. yorkshireshoot

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    I got told as has been said to clean if changing pellets for testing then allow 20/30 to " re lead " the barrel then only if groupings change .
     
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    Cleaning Air Rifle barrels has always sat in my mind as very necessary but have to admit in 40 od years of owning an original 50 it's never been cleaned

    Rimfire barrels get cleaned if it's a bolt action, if it's a semi auto it gets left as the only practical way of cleaning in is via the muzzle and that doesn't happen as it would hurt the crown and kill the accuracy

    Centrefire barrels get cleaned every time out to remove carbon, but the copper covering the lead core leaves traces through the rifling, these I remove when my accuracy starts to be noticed

    I watched a YouTube vid of a old air rifle barrel having a tight patch pushed through after a couple of years of not being used and the crap which came out was amazing, then a strong de-leading solution added to the patch left to soak and then cleaned vigorously with a wire brush, the barrel then patched until it looked like new

    After all that effort the pellets were still producing the same tight group

    I feel lazy for not taking the same care of my old air rifles as I do over my other guns but seriously worried about my new Daystates how far should I go with them, Napier cleaning pellets and accuracy oil on the pellets used

    What do you guys think ???


    Alan xxx
     
  18. stevemandm

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    i've spent a lot of time on this subject mate, and the conclusions that i have come to are as below.

    1. aways clean the barrel of a new rifle. all new rifles have oil/grease left in from the manufacturing process.
    2. clean the barrel if bought 2nd hand and you dont know its history.
    3. clean the barrel when 'pellet testing' to find the barrels best pellet - this starts all the pellets off from an even playing field, so they get a true comparison (clean after every different pellet).
    4. clean the barrel when accuracy is affected - if groups open up.

    basically, only clean when neccesary ... if it aint broke, it dont need fixing
     
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    I use a pull through (purchased on this forum from Matty, nice bit of kit too) to clean my barrel and when it's virtually clean, I use dry cleaning pellets to finish the job. I have done a fair amount of barrel cleaning recently as I have been carrying out an extensive pellet test. I found that a barrel clean before testing my two final pellets improved their groupings compared with their earlier results.:) Other than that, the advice above by Steve is very sound and is the advice he gave when I started my pellet test and has served me very well.:D:up:
     
  20. Jackroadkill

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    My bell target club's old Feinwerkbau 300s has never had a barrel clean, and it is phenomenally accurate. It must have has literally tons of lead through it over the years and it's still more accurate than I am.

    I've also never cleaned the barrel of my S410.
     

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