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Good news Are Co2 Pistols Are Starting To Get Popular Again ?

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by Wild Bill, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. Paul55

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    I only found out it had a partially rifled barrel when I had to take the outer barrel off to fix a "wobble". I was shocked to see it. From what I found out it seemed the early 715's had a fully rifled barrel but I couldn't find out when they changed. In fairness it didn't seem to affect the accuracy.
     
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    Not a replica but here's mine (as you say there's just something about having them and handling them even if you don't shoot them very often)...
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    So far I've only ever shot lead pellets out of this even though the Dude I bought it off gave me a big bag of BBs with it as I'd read somewhere that the BBs will damage the barrel rifling. Anyone know if this is true?

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  4. Russ Douglas

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    Steel BBs can wear-down rifling, stick to copper-coated lead BBs; but beware as I've heard some brands can jam some pistols.

    Bri has sent me photos of the DW715 I sold on to him (with the 2.5" rifled sleeve within the longer outer bull barrel), it's actually a 6" version. My bad I mis-remembered after also having tried an 8" BB-only DW (white cardboard box) in the intervening period, before selling it on for a friend. R
     
  5. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Wild West is my thing. (co2 enthusiast)

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    That's amazing Paul. I have done loads of internet searching over the last few weeks and I couldn't find anything on the subject. What year did the early 715's come out? 2014?
    I'm pretty impressed with my 6" 715 fully rifled pellet version. Great accuracy and it packs quite a punch.
     
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    Wild Bill Wild West is my thing. (co2 enthusiast)

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    (sigh)Your actual quote "Err well excuse me you cheeky s0d, but regardless of the photo you upload here it said Dan Wesson 715 on the box, and the fact remains an 8" smoothbore outer bull barrel was sold with a 2.5" long rifled inner sleeve. So you disagree that the 8" barrelled pistol, rifled with only a 2.5" rifled inner sleeve was advertised / sold misleadingly, really?"


    Yes I did disagree with you for good reason. They never ever made an 8" 715.
    So, to be honest, you didn't know that they never made an 8" 715 which you were claiming to have owned one and it had a 2.5" barrel. That is what was false and threw people. For the record now that Paul has confirmed it I am leaning towards the possibility that a bad batch came out of the early 715 6" but am yet to see one. And I too would be pee'd off with that if I owned one.
    You came on here with an attitude that got peoples backs up. That's is the be all and end all of it. With 10 gallon hat quips and pathetic co2 air pistol remarks. There was no need for that. So coming on a forum and acting in a troll like keyboard warrior manner will normally result in getting various replies to your posts from members not liking what you said.
    But hey ho............life goes on no hard feelings eh? :up::cool: It's just a forum. How about you take a photo of one of your nice co2 pistols on an Aberdeenshire Council bin for us?:D

    ps, I want you to know that I detest the airgun advertising rags. Always have done. Never seen an honest and truthful review in any of them. But that's just my opinion.
     
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    Ok... speaking as someone who knows FEKKUS ALLUS about co2/air pistols....

    these days....

    can you get pcp pistols you fill from a dive tank ?

    or springers like in the good old days of the tempest and hurricane?

    Do they fire pellets or are they all ball bearing?

    like I said... I know nuffin about air pistols in 2019
     
  8. Paul55

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    It was first shown at the SHOT show in January 2015. They became available here in March that year.
     
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    The only current PCP-powered Air pistols I know-of are expensive Match 10m target pistols.

    The HW45 (think enlarged Colt 1911 clone) is a springer, and I believe Turkish gunmaker Hatsan make a break-barrel pistol in the style of the old BSA Scorpion / Webley Typhoon -these pistols are all pellet-firing.
    I'm guessing firing rifling-stabilised pellets is pretty-much essential to increase accuracy potential with these more powerful pistols.

    I believe BB-firers are generally confined to the relatively lower-powered CO2 pistol end of the market, but there are bound to be exceptions.

    Cheers. Russ
     
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  10. Russ Douglas

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    @Wild Bill Sorry I have feck-all of a back yard (open on three sides to adjacent neighbours) and our wheelie bins stay outdoors, so there's no way I can take a photo of an exposed pistol on my bins without breaking the law. :(

    It was my honest mistake to describe my DW715 as 8", due to having briefly owned both an 8" DW and 6" DW715 at roughly the same time. But the fact remains some 6" DW715 pistols (black boxes) were marketed as " 6" barrel, rifled " -when in fact the rifled inner sleeve is only 2" or 2.5" long. Several other forum members have already attested to this.

    I've written about fifty articles for Airgun World since July 2017 and have only ever been truthful. I also measure and verify as much info as possible, someone recently commented after my Gamo Boxer video (which accompanied my printed rifle review) "...very informative, cocking pull bolt weight on one of these type of vids MUST be a first...". I measure cocking weight with a spring balance and trigger pull with a Wheeler gauge. :thumb:

    Cheers. Russ
     
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    PP700W, PP700SA, HW44, soon maybe possibly to be available PP750 and there's more I don't know about.

    The PP700?? are in the £2-300 bracket the HW44 is based on the HW110 action and is in the £600 ballpark.
     
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    Wild Bill Wild West is my thing. (co2 enthusiast)

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    Here you go Russ, broaden your knowledge........;):D

    These are all PCP air pistols:

    Artemis PP800
    Weihrauch HW44
    Air Arms Alfa Proj

    Hammerli AP20 Match
    Artemis PP700SA
    SMK PP700W
    Hammerli AP20 Pro Target
    Steyr LP50 Compact
    Steyr LP50 long
    Steyr EVO 10 Compact
    Steyr EVO 10 Long

    Steyr EVO 10E
    Benjamin Marauder Pistol
    Airforce Talon pistol
    Evanix Rex
    Hatsan Sortie pistol
    Crosman 1720T
    Ataman AP16
    Morini MOR
    Feinwerkbau P8X
    Brocock Grand Prix Super 6
    Diana Bandit PCP pistol

    I would really like one of these PCP Benjamin pistols:

    bp2220-ap_4_2.jpg

     
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  13. Lev Levvin

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    Wow! Some sexy looking gear there!!

    hellish expensive though... some of those cost more than a decent pcp rifle
     
  14. Russ Douglas

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    ...yep and most listed are dedicated target pistols (so I wouldn't have included them within this focused discussion thread in the first place), very few are compact / handy fun pistols, that might be used by CO2 pistol enthusiasts.

    That last one's clearly a carbine too, hopefully good for ratting. :thumb: I'd describe the excellent HW44 as more of a carbine pistol too, as there are some excellent stock options. Stock-less it's more usually pictured being shot two-handed off a beanbag rest, thanks to the size & weight. :thumb:

    Cheers. Russ
     
  15. Russ Douglas

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    @Wild Bill Oh and folk are telling me lots of those are not available in the UK anyway, but hey you list-away whatever google tells you, if it makes you feel über knowledgable. :rolleyes: R
     
  16. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Wild West is my thing. (co2 enthusiast)

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    I will thanks. But your lack of airgun journalistic knowledge is incredible. You didn't say they needed to be available just in the UK. :rolleyes::coffee:
     
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  17. Russ Douglas

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    (Sighs while rolling eyes) er, but isn't this forum .co.UK?
    I was replying to a question from @Lev Levvin (not you) ...next you're going to suggest a shootout with ray guns? :rolleyes:
    I'm a patient and reasonable man, but I give up on you. R
     
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    cruisingaround shooting my load

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    Just out of interest has anyone used a dart in any of their CO2 guns.
     
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    sagalout Roll on January 2nd

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    To ways of looking at it Lev, your favourite "ain't no pockets in a shroud" or mine "no Mrs Lout it was a bargain, only £50"
     
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    Yes, they probably would, stick to pellets
     

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