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Applying for the big guns!

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by joe_zef87, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. joe_zef87

    joe_zef87 Engaging Member

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    So i have read the post at the top of the page which has helped me understand the process of application etc. What i would like to find out is, do i really need a shotgun or FAC? Im generally shooting pigeons around a farm at the moment but have permission on the surrounding land which has plenty pests to be taken care of. I shoot with a Hw95k at the moment which is ideal for the yard but was toying of applying for a FAC rated air rifle or a .22 Long rifle for the rabbits and field shooting.

    Is there a different process of application for the long rifles and fac air rifles? What would be best for this type of shooting? Can FAC air rifles be bought or do they have to be aftermarket tuned up to the suitable ft/lbs? financially, which one is cheaper to run?

    A friend of mine is part of a syndicate and has been asking if i fancy applying for a shotgun licence and take part in the shoot so this is also an option. I was told a shotgun licence can be easier to obtain rather than a FAC. true/false??

    Just wanting to know more about it to be honest so any advice would be appreciated.
     
  2. toytown

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    the process is exactly the same be it for FAC air or .50cal and everything in between. you need the application for an two referee forms, 4 pics and a good reason as well as land that is FAC cleared. you need to fill out every part of the form even the convictions no matter how minor like speeding or parking. you then need to send the referee forms and 2 of the pics to 2 diff people to fill out and sign the photos and post directaly to the FEO and then fill your form out with the details of each referee and the other 2 pics. and dont forget the £50 i think mine was. if you want your SGC which you prop will if you do allot of pigeon then do it at the same time coz its only an extra £10 rather tham £50 at a later date.

    imo if you are going for your FAC put .22lr + mod and .22 air + mod. you will also need your lock box/s befor the interview too.

    if you have good reason, ie no other method has worked then they have no grounds to refuse you, apart from convictions or the fact that your FEO dosnt like you and has picked on some stupid reason not to grant it
     
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  3. adymorris

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    FAC air and .22rf application is no different, providing you demonstrate you have a need and the land is passed or suitable you will have no problem getting a licence, providing of course you yourself are a suitable candidate.

    some forces may treat an FAC air different as .22LR has a tendancy to bounce well

    FAC air will be better suited for work around buildings but will only give you about 20-30 yards effective range over a 12fpe airgun

    shotgun licence applications don't require you to be a member of a club or have land to shoot over as you could be getting it for clay shooting whereas an FAC does require you to have land/club membership, if you do it's just as easy.

    i'd apply for both 22LR and FAC air
     
  4. r10hunter

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    If shooting lots of pigeons you will need a shotgun go for both fac and sgc and save a few quid. Even if you dont think you will buy a shotgun yet get your sgc as once you have your sgc you can borrow a shotgun. There is a daft law that makes them harder to borrow than rifles. Get a gun cabinet twice as big as you think you need you will fill it. Good luck with the application.
    cheers Andy
     
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  5. joe_zef87

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    Ok thanks guys, thats helped. Just out of interest. Whatlbs/ft rating would a long rifle be shooting at?

    Also if i apply for both? i dont have to own both do i? I would say i will probably end up with a shotgun first, but would like to know that if i decided to get a LR or FAC air, i can just go out and get one. How often do i have to renew a licence and does this cost anything?
     
  6. toytown

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    you have 5 years to fill the slot on your FAC, even if you are given a slot and you fill it if they feel you havent used it enough they can remove it, its all done on the amount of rounds you buy. dont put what power FAC air you want and most sub sonic rounds are about 90ft/lbs and HVs are about 110ft/lbs with 40g rounds.
     

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